ALTERED STATES II: Winner Takes Nothing film reflects on indyref aftermath


By a Reporter

The second part of a retrospective documentary on the Scottish independence referendum and its aftermath – ALTERED STATE – has been made public, featuring the reflections of various writers and bloggers from the Yes camp.

Titled ‘Winner Take Nothing’, it begins with the increasingly desperate ‘No’ campaign arranging Her Majesty’s backing. The impact of Project Fear’s negativity, elite self-interest, media imbalance and last-minute promises finally proved too much to overcome for the Yes campaign. Interviewees consider aspects of voter behavior and results as well as flaws in the Yes argument that require attention before considering a second referendum. In a campaign that saw the unionist parties prepared to destroy themselves to win, perhaps the real winner was the newly politically aware Scottish public who are still deeply engaged in a conversation about their constitutional future, a debate that seems destined to arrive at only one conclusion.

Was the last minute reintroduction of the ‘Devo Max’ offer a clear breach of the Edinburgh Agreement and a cynical attempt to split the pro-independence vote? Did HM Treasury collude with the BBC during the illegal RBS leak of market sensitive information to damage the economic case of the Yes campaign?
Watch and make up your own mind.

This episode includes interviews with Newsnet’s Derek Bateman, writer Janice Galloway, blogger James Kelly, Professor John Robertson, Paul Kavanagh (Wee Ginger Dug) and Christopher Silver.

Wee Ginger Dug’s New Book is now available for order. James Kelly blogs at Scot Goes Pop.

Professor John Robertson’s latest research Scotland’s Propaganda War: The Media and the 2014 Independence Referendum is now free to view.

Christopher Silver’s new book ‘The Case for a Scottish Media’ is due for release.


  1. Heartbreaking. Though hope still lives. May it not be ground into the mud by what is happening under a Tory government and Tory opposition at Westminster. Next time we win.

    • Hi D,
      There’s more than just hope alive now D. Anyone in Westminster seriously daft enough trying to grind Scots into the mud, will seriously have both their leg chewed off.
      Wee Bercow and his team try every stunt in the book to lock out our MP’s at every turn, but Westminster has neither the wit nor the wisdom to shackle Scotland now
      Fear not Dorothy, this coming battle for Scotland will be more ferocious than Bannockburn. The Union will be obliterated, and well they well know it.

  2. DB, I’m sure that like me, you’re tired of your heart being broken – if Indy2 comes around we must seize the chance, and not be sidelined by vague promises/lies – former PM Gordon Brown pleaded for a “NO” vote, and said the day after we would have so many more powers – that never happened, so I hope we can finally stop continuing to fall for the lies 🙁

    • Only ca 5% (and dropping all the time), of prospective Yes voters fell for the Great Lie Graeme,
      Hitler would be not best pleased at that result, and his wee pal Goebbels would have been off hire, tout de suite.

      “We won’t get fooled again”. I wish I had a tenner for every time No voters have come out with that one over the past year.

  3. The yes vote went down to the massed onslaught of terror tactics from the “British Establishment, Corporate Business Interests, the almost entire press corp, the BBC propaganda machine set in overdrive, and the overabundance of self seeking Unionist troughers and carpet baggers throughout the UK.

    And yet, and yet, the Yes vote lost on points. Hardly routed or “put to the bayonet” as Ian Davidson so gleefully predicted. So now the No Camp have real fear, as opposed to Project Fear in their eyes and hearts, because all their black deeds have done is to flame an Independence blaze of fire that truly terrifies the Unionists. That’s why they can’t stop talking about Indy2, throwing sticks at it, putting their head under the covers and praying that it will go away. But It wont !
    Wellington witnessed a similar phenomenon of righteous Scottish anger at Waterloo, and it terrified him as well.

    You can sense right now the Independence wave rising just by looking into peoples eyes when our only Referendum so far is mentioned in conversation, and their thoughts on it now. They seem to know the coming Tsunami will crush forever the myth of Empire. A real Unionist nightmare.

    We cannot live on Dreams that Never Die. (Sincere deference to a great Scot, but never say never Alex.)
    Nothing worth much ever comes easy. Independence will happen when the clear majority of our elected MSP’s of all persuasions are made to make it happen one way or the other, by the Sovereign Will of the Scottish People.
    I know Scotland will be Independent as it was always intended it should be..

    Happy New Year


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