‘If Salmond run down by bus – I wouldn’t ask who did it’ says Labour MP

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By a Newsnet reporter
 
A Labour MP has claimed that if Scotland’s First Minister Alex Salmond was killed by being run over by a bus that she would not be interested in finding out who the driver was.
 
Labour MP Margaret Curran (pictured) made the extraordinary remark in an interview with respected magazine Holyrood.com.

MP Curran, also a former MSP, was responding to a question on whether anyone within the SNP was capable of taking over from Mr Salmond, when she said:

“I think if Alex Salmond went under a bus tomorrow – not that I would ask who drove that bus – but seriously, if he wasn’t there, I don’t think there is any other member of that team who could fulfil the role that he is playing”

Ms Curran’s astonishing comment will be embarrassing for the Labour party in Scotland and was published on the same day party colleague and fellow MP Tom Harris launched his own vitriolic attack on Mr Salmond and SNP voters.

Mr Harris accused the First Minister of being ‘undemocratic’ and ‘dishonest’ and of planning to ignore rules in the run-up to the independence referendum.

Speaking to Holyrood.com Mr Harris said: “I think there’s absolutely no chance at all that Alex Salmond, left to his own devices, will actually ask an honest question.  It’s in his nature; he will ask the question that he thinks most likely to be answered with a yes.

“He will change any rule – literally any rule – in order to get the result he wants.  There’s nothing remotely democratic in that.”

The Labour MP then launched an attack on Labour’s online critics claiming that they are responsible for all online vitriol and that Labour supporters do not indulge in similar.

Mr Harris insisted that these critics are SNP members who use assumed names and that most label their opponents as “traitors”.

He said: “The level of vitriol on the internet from Nats who believe that by disagreeing with them you are a traitor, or a quisling, or you are a bad person; most of them do believe that.  They tend to cover it up.

“The SNP [as an] organisation always says, ‘nothing to do with us’ – of course they are, they just used pseudonyms so you can’t prove whether they’re SNP members or not.  There’s a lot of bullying on the internet, and that kind of bullying is being used to a huge extent by the Nationalists.

I know people say, ‘there’s just as much antagonism on the Labour side’ and ‘Labour people are just as nasty’ – that’s a lie, that’s wrong, and it’s demonstrably wrong.”

Mr Harris’ attacks on the First Minister are not unusual.  Similar attacks have seen Mr Salmond compared to Hitler, Mussolini and Robert Mugabe.

Earlier this year Labour MP Iain Davidson caused outrage after he described the Scottish National Party as ‘neo-fascists’.

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122 COMMENTS

  1. I wondered where Frank McAveety’s bus had gone.

    As for Tom Harris – the more they believe that, the lower they will sink.

  2. I don’t think any of us are really surprised by these attacks.

    It is going to get worse – this aggresive approach cost them the election.

    People are not stupid – they here the accusation that’s it’s the nasty SNP to blame but the words and aggression are all from Labour spokesmen.

    They still don’t get it!

    • Harris seems to be donning Ian Grey’s mantle ……….a very poor career move.

      Will they have asssasins with umbrellas trying to do a ‘Hugh Gaitskell’ on Eck?

      Labour are a farce.

  3. Well the bus wouldnt be in Glasgow…

    [b]Glasgow safest city in UK[/b]

    [url]http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/glasgow-safest-city-in-uk-1.1137087?6104[/url]

    [i]AFTER eight decades of struggling to shake off the “No Mean City” tag, a global survey of leading cities has ranked Glasgow the best in the UK for personal safety.[/i]

  4. Agreed Clootie, i would be worried if this was’nt Scotland, but this kind of nonsense just shows people just how nutty Labour have become in Scotland, they’re becoming like a monty python political party and Scots see right through it.

  5. [i]I know people say, ‘there’s just as much antagonism on the Labour side’ and ‘Labour people are just as nasty’ – that’s a lie, that’s wrong, and it’s demonstrably wrong.”[/i]

    Indeed,

    There is a complete step change in vitriol from Labour supporters. The levels are off the scale for Labour while the Nats are for the most part trying to debate points. To say there is just as much is to underestimate the Labour vitriol by factors

  6. I read that article with some disbelief

    Afer all, as I reread yesterday, Tom HArris it was who referred to the SNP Annual conference as a “hate fest” [url]http://www.webarchive.org.uk/wayback/archive/20100513001404/http://www.tomharris.org.uk/2009/10/16/the-snp-version-of-public-private-partnership/[/url]

    Of course he is the “admin” behind the Labourhame blog. The one that has liked to poke abuse at the FM, though from them it’s “banter” and where his “unanswerable questions” were answered, or rather he was pointed towards existing answers, and those comments didn’t make it though moderation.

    Which does seem bizarre in a place for open and honest debate

    Moreover the SNP are, according to a Labour Activist who helps writes for the Labourhame blog, anti-English racists [s]http://www.betternation.org/2011/10/pete-wishart-the-labour-leadership-speech-you-wont-hear/#comment-15378[/s]

    He makes a bizarre attempt to cover his tracks by saying “well, I’m not calling you racists, just your central plank of ‘civic nationalism’ is a cloak for your racism.

    [s]http://scotgoespop.blogspot.com/2011/10/labours-constitutional-conservatism-in.html#comment-form[/s]

    This is an activist working in Mr Harris’s cause.

    I assume that that is also “just banter” and not the sort of nastiness that Mr Harris says doesn’t exist on his side.

    He can’t read the pro-Labour comments on the Scotsman then

    • The trouble is these Labour people live in their own parallel universe where they believe their own worst paranoid fantasies. Because they (in their own minds) represent all that’s good and true, the SNP must represent all that’s bad and false. It’s a classic case of projection, where they project their own dark side onto their political opponents. It’s both sad and potentially serious. I think Curran here is playing with incitement to assassination. 30 years of ‘troubles’ anyone? I just wish they’d all take some sedatives and calm down a bit before it gets (even more) out of hand.

    • [quote name=”zedeeyen”]If Margaret Curran went under a bus, would anyone even notice?[/quote]

      My sympathies would be with the bus driver. It would obviously have been an accident..???

    • [quote name=”zedeeyen”]If Margaret Curran went under a bus, would anyone even notice?[/quote]

      I think people would notice, because it would have improved her appearance – and THAT’S a bit of Labourhame-style banter for you Mr. Harris.

  7. Honestly, Labour are quite literally paranoid. They seemingly think that people who post online in favour of independence are under central SNP control. It is absolutely bizarre. Labour are losing the plot.

    I am a member of the SNP, but nobody has ever told me what to say online. In fact if they did, I’d tell them to take a long walk off a short pier. Maybe that is the point, in that Labour cannot grasp that some political movements are NOT centrally controlled by a ‘focus group’, like Labour is.

    I have openly on these forums perviously criticised things done by the SNP that I do not agree with. NOBODY tells me what to say. Period.

    One thing however, will NEVER change, and that is my desire to see the end of this tawdry, outdated, undemocratic union, whereby Scotland is controlled by a parliament in England with England’s interests at heart. Meanwhile, what exactly do the likes of Tom Harris or Margaret Curran stand for?? It certainly is NOT socialism OR democracy.

    The Scottish London Unionists are starting to squeal like pigs. They sound more desperate with every passing day, as they realise the London gravy train for the likes of Margaret Curran and Tom Harris is coming to an end. No more free flights to London, no more tax payer funded second houses in London W1, no more nights out in posh London restaurants, no more unchecked expenses claims, no more hob nobbing with the rich and famous. It is like the Scottish London unionists are grieving. Either way it is very sad to watch their writhing and girning.

    Maybe in future, Margaret Curran and Tom Harris will actually have to work for a living.

    • “quite literally paranoid” Agreed, RL. They have been for a long time. Now they’re losing power, it’s just coming more nastily to the surface.

    • RL

      A good summary that aligns with my own views.

      We have made a choice in selecting a party and that party had to earn the vote.

      Labour expects the vote as a birthright.

  8. That’s a shocking comment for a Labour MP to make about the First Minister of Scotland.

    As usual it’s instructive to imagine if Angus Robertson MP had made a similar comment about Ed Milliband.

    They’d even shelve the valuable, news displacing wall to wall panda coverage to make room for those baying for his resignation.

  9. I’m actually quite surprised by Curran’s remarks. I’d have thought she was a little more astute than that.

    However, given she is Shadow Sec of State for Scotland I think that she should either resign or Milliband should fire her.

    • [quote name=”Wee-Scamp”]I’m actually quite surprised by Curran’s remarks. I’d have thought she was a little more astute than that.

      However, given she is Shadow Sec of State for Scotland I think that she should either resign or Milliband should fire her.[/quote]
      [quote name=”Wee-Scamp”]I’m actually quite surprised by Curran’s remarks. I’d have thought she was a little more astute than that.

      However, given she is Shadow Sec of State for Scotland I think that she should either resign or Milliband should fire her.[/quote]
      Astute? She is an acidic rent a gob. Nothing less.

    • [quote name=”Wee-Scamp”]I’m actually quite surprised by Curran’s remarks. I’d have thought she was a little more astute than that.

      However, given she is Shadow Sec of State for Scotland I think that she should either resign or Milliband should fire her.[/quote]

      No surprise to myself as someone who has been around Labour for many a year..
      Much worst than that comment from Curran in what could be said so-called private moments

  10. If AS goes under a bus we will know who was driving it.

    The Westminster establishment should pray for the health and safety of the first minister

  11. I clearly wrankles with Cooperative party funded Labour British Nationalism Party that their recent many leadership shams have exposed that Labour have no one of the calibre of Nicola, Big Mike, Angus, Marco and the whole host of others. PS, I attended a doo with Aileen McLeod and there is not one Labour MSP or MP to compete with her!

  12. Tom Harris…lol, well its a liebour mp that’s saying it so it must be true…ha ha
    Really, the man’s havin a laff. What’s that saying about having the ability to see your self as others see you?
    The labour party need a good dollop of that ability fast.

  13. The Labour Party I don’t think they are aware that there is an election in May.
    No mention of policies,direction nor vision yet they hope to be elected, some hope!!!!

  14. [i]”Mr Harris insisted that these critics are SNP members who use assumed names and that most label their opponents as “traitors”.

    He said: “The level of vitriol on the internet from Nats who believe that by disagreeing with them you are a traitor, or a quisling, or you are a bad person; most of them do believe that. They tend to cover it up.”[/i]
    Utter rubbish. WE aren’t allowed to use the ‘Q’ word.

    • “”Utter rubbish. WE aren’t allowed to use the ‘Q’ word.””
      Which neatly reveals the essential difference in quality between The SNP and abour. – INTEGRITY.

  15. Drivetime tonight had the usual pash from radio Scotland hectoring and interrupting John Swinney while giving Darling an easy ride and more or less spoon feeding him the questions.
    It truly amazes me how these peoplecan do down their country like that, and as for the poisonous rodent at the treasury….

  16. Sorry for going off subject
    but I watched AS on the “One Show”
    and he came across rather well.
    I guess he had to go via london on his way to China.

    • I got the impression that Matt Baker went into the interview a bit sceptical, but came out of it somewhat impressed. He even commented on how they had bombarded him (Salmond) with more questions than any other guest.

      I think they were surprised that every question was answered positively, without hesitation and without English-bashing. Perhaps Baker and Jones have just been hearing the London view of “separatists”.

      • I saw that most of the questions A.S. was asked were the same old questions. However, the very fact that he was asked them on the “One Show” might very well backfire on the unionists. I think there are a lot of wavering Scots who watch this show but will never have heard A.S. answer such questions before. As you say T.E. he answered all the questions without any hesitation, he didn’t do any “England bashing” and he was totally honest in all his answers. Yet again another example to wavering Scots that in A.S. we have the “best of the best” in charge. Furthermore by having A.S. in charge we really can make an Independent Scotland work, and work well!

        • Damn, I missed that! My connection went down again early evening and didn’t get the heads up! Do you reckon it’ll be on the net anytime soon?

        • Love everything you say, my friend. Keep saying it loud to any on the Wavering Line, they will surely board this boat steaming to Independence Harbour.

  17. Has Tom Harris ever read the scurrilous comments of Labour supporters in the Scotsman articles? Has he read the scurrilous comments that Torquil Chrichton wrote about Alex Salmond in his blog? Is he happy about the misrepresentation of the SNP in this journalist’s newspaper?

    Here is a comment from the Levenson inquiry today from Richard Peppiatt:

    “[i]…there is an important difference between the legal sense and the moral sense of truth.

    The tabloid press have no interest in the moral sense.

    If one newspaper pushes the line, everyone rushes to fill the void behind them.

    I’m sure I’ll be lambasted by some tabloid editors for saying that. But I’m sick of [tabloid editors] stepping forward and going ‘moral considerations are at the forefront of our mind’, because they’re certainly not…”[/i]

    As Tom Harris will know, Mr Chrichton is a senior political editor in the Daily Record, a tabloid newspaper, if I am not mistaken.

    • Tom Harris is a waste of space. He’s my MP and all I would say to him is that he should cheer up and stop being so bloody miserable.

  18. I am sure there could be plenty of quotes that could be given as examples from Labour Party supporters. I am extremely sorry that I did not store Chrichton’s abusive statement for future use.

  19. These comments are disgraceful. Is their any point to complaining to Ed Milliband? I wonder.

    These comments feel like a threat. Do FM’s get security? Perhaps alex should invest in some given this level of evil from Labour.

    My rage level for labour has increased today.

    What happended to NNS today? I couldnt get access to the site.

    • [quote name=”C2DEalba”]
      What happended to NNS today? I couldnt get access to the site.[/quote]

      I got in this evening via a old webpage as newsnetscotland.com is showing something about media brothers – what’s happening man?

      • Me 2, a media brothers page came up. Thought it was strange and put it down to work IT peeps doing geeky things with tech. 🙂

  20. That a seasoned senior politician would say “I think if Alex Salmond went under a bus tomorrow – not that I would ask who drove that bus” speaks volumes about the speaker.
    It could be interpreted as an implied threat to our FM’s health and safety designed to unsettle him and introvert his attention and the attention of his office on to his personal safety as a stress inducing distraction.
    The independence process appears to be heating up and the gloves are being taken off if ever so genteelly.
    Does anyone know the bookmaker odds on independence currently. That will be the better indicator than opinion polls.

  21. Curran was on Scotland Tonight pretending to understand economics. I am thankful for the fact that the Scots are now seeing through these self seeking people. They are history.

    • I saw it. She should have a look at herself. Plenty to say but nothing substantive. Ed must be feeling he made a wrong decision there.

      I was amused at Gordon Brewer’s remark when the ‘economist’ John McLaren was being introduced. Brewer said Mclaren should be honoured that he was the only non-politician on the programme (a dubious statement if ever there was one).

      But why did Brewer have to say McLaren was non-political? A strange remark to make. Has someone been accusing the man of being politically motivated perchance?

      • Perhaps someone at Pacific Quay reads the comments on this site and we are starting to get to them! 😀

  22. Imagine the furore if AS had made those remarks about Mr Ed the hypocrisy of Liebour when you can’t have a proper debate resort to personal attack, this is only the beginning fellow Cybernats we are obviously getting under their skin, beware never underestimate the depths to which this mob will sink to keep their snouts in the trough and keep us their subjects, by the way anyone notice the striking resemblance of MC to Zelda oot the Terrahawks – Uncanny!!!

    Saor Alba!!

    Imagine the furore if AS had made those remarks about Mr Ed the hypocrisy of Liebour when you can’t have a proper debate resort to personal attack, this is only the beginning fellow Cybernats we are obviously getting under their skin, beware never underestimate the depths to which this mob will sink to keep their snouts in the trough and keep us their subjects, by the way anyone notice the striking resemblance of MC to Zelda oot the Terrahawks – Uncanny!!!

    Saor Alba!!

  23. Think there are a few issues after the storage Problem for the site, eg comments links not going back to the specific comment. I also got a msg saying I should try again later as I had recently submitted a comment. (although my comment appeared in a timely fashion anyway). Testing, testing 123.

  24. I imagine if Joe Bloggs had said this about, say, the PM, that person would find themselves in a police questioning suite being dealt with as a credible threat.

  25. Harris claims that British Labour & Unionist Party activists are not involved in all manner of dirty tricks including online bullying and spreading “vitriol” on the internet. He claims that accusations to this effect are “demonstrably wrong”. Let him demonstrate it!

    He says that attributing such behaviour to his party is a “lie”. But regular users of online forums and media comment facilities will know well enough who the liar is.

  26. These remarks are not worth getting uptight over.

    It only proves that they are completely rattled. Labour are a shower of no-hopers. There isn’t much intellect in the Scottish branch, so they resort to the only thing that they know.

    Keep on cyber-natting! If they are criticising us, we must be hitting the target.

    And AS on the One Show was inspired. Calm and controlled, and all the questions answered without a ripple. Slowly but surely the war is being won.

    • wellsaid Be[ter this is exactly the reason we are winning the debate. My non political pals are all voting yes at rhe referendum. I cant think of one who is against independence. why? Alex Salmond everyone loves the guy (i kid you not)this is what they state. Labour? who?

  27. Yes and Curran says no questions asked if our Fm is wiped out! Appalling. I thought folk got 4 years in jail for promoting violence or riots, ordinary folk that is, not shadow secretaries. Disgraceful. I’d kick her head in if I wasn’t just kidding like she was. Lol!

  28. British Labour & Unionist Party activists are not involved in all manner of dirty tricks including online bullying and spreading “vitriol” don’t make me laugh has he not seen the verdict passed on a certain mr Sheridan Liebour MSP for falsely accusing AS of being behind the recommendation for Mr Souters Knighthood, if that is not malicious what the heck is!!!

  29. Oh come on, I think you’re reading too much into this. It’s Margaret Curran FFS, she of the ‘open the gub, disengage the brain and let the guts rumble’ brand of politics.

    I am sure what she said wasn’t meant to be taken literally, it wasn’t a threat against the Great Eck and I doubt we’ll see omnibus McAveety lurking anywhere near Bute House.

    Stairheid basically talks that stuff you find lying around dairy farms.

    • Fully agree on Curran she’s Scotland answer to Sarah Palin and thus it’s a non story that can but summarised thusly, idiot says something stupid.

      The Tom Harris stuff on the other hand is jaw dropping, though I would point out that he’s clearly said it to curry favour within the Labour party but I doubt it’ll work. As has been pointed out above he must never read the Scotsman and how is comparing AS to Hitler or the SNP to Neo-fascist by Labour MP’s any better? Also compare all the Labour –SNP vitriol online to online comments in general they are fairly tame I was on IGN the other day when one poster suggested the new Wii would be a really good console to people than posted wishing death be all manner of means that’s just way the internet it general.

    • There’s another wee poll going to the right hand side of the page… this one’s to see how Osborne’s popularity is coming along lol

      • I’m guessing that the second responder, let’s call him Steve, is currently living in England. With a quote like this:

        [quote]For example, England does pretty well from the oil fields off the coast of Scotland. In 2008, London took £12.9 billion in oil and gas revenues from north of the border. Surely we don’t want to lose that. And I don’t feel as though we are robbing this money, Scotland doesn’t do too badly from money from Westminster.[/quote]

        he can’t possibly be living anywhere else, can he?

        Guess what Steve, you will not get your chance to vote if, as I suspect, you live in England.

        With an argument such as this then surely Scotland will become Independent!

          • Aiken, it would need to be a rather large tongue in one hell of a humongous cheek! 😀

  30. Normally I would take this as a pile of guff, but this person is in a position of responsibility and authority and may, god help us all, one day be in a position to make decisions which can affect us all, be afraid be very afraid!!, the point is that if any SNP MSP Cybernat, supporter or activist had come away with this comment Westmonster would have had an emergency sitting to bring back hanging for the perpetrator,

    I’m losing it who has the key to the Dark Room I need a rest!!!

  31. [quote]“I think if Alex Salmond went under a bus tomorrow – not that I would ask who drove that bus – but seriously, if he wasn’t there, I don’t think there is any other member of that team who could fulfil the role that he is playing”[/quote]

    I won’t comment on “stairheid rammie’s” bus comment. What I will say though is that if she doesn’t think there is anyone in the Scottish Government who could take over from Alex Salmond if the worst happened then she really does need to waken up and smell the coffee. The current Scottish Government has a whole host of MSP’s who could step straight into his shoes without missing a step. Labour on the other hand well let’s see who could replace the ever eloquent Elmer as Labour leader.

    Just a minute I’m still thinking!

    Nope! Sorry I can’t think of any one in the Labour Party who could fill the post of local road sweeper far less leader of the Labour party. (No slur intended to real road sweepers who do an excellent job!)

    • Never mind the Scottish Parties look at Ed whats his face or the Lib Dem leader or Dave. What a bunch of second rate nobodies!

      • I’m sorry Islegard, I have to disagree with you here. Millipede, the biting insect and “Call me Dave” ar not second rate nobodies, they are, [b]at best[/b], fourth rate nobodies. 😀

  32. I think Macart was the last person seen with the key. Unless he left the door open of course…. Arbroath do you know?

  33. Amnongst all the ranting and chest beating a wee positive. I e-mailed Reform Scotland to suggest both Newsnet Scotland and Bella Caledonia should be available as links on their web site and received this reply:

    Many thanks for your email. I have added the links you suggested to our links page – http://reformscotland.com/index.php/links/

    Kind regards

    Alison

    Alison Payne
    Research Director

    Now I return you to your evening’s dragon slaying …… 😀

    • That’ll be the same PaddyPower who in January had Nicola as 2:1 to take Govan and Dave Thompson at 8:1 to take Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch, and 33:1 for an SNP Majority

      (OK, not even I would have thought about a tenner on a Majority but….)

  34. Never really understood why Labour think that cybernats are all SNP-controlled.

    They really can’t comprehend the freedom brought about by the internet, in terms of access to information and arguments. The unionists have no argument, that is why they are losing, that is why they have to resort to underhand tactics, and that is why they want the referendum as soon as possible before more people see the light.

    Salmond has them running round in circles. Roll on the second half of the parliamentary term!!!!

  35. I’m sure what is really getting up Harris’s nose about the cybernats is that most of the comments are analytical and destroy the myths being perpetrated in the media. The remarks that annoy Harris are small beer compared to the debunking articles on this site and their accomapanying comments.

  36. I thought Alex Salmond did very well last night in the heart of the beast, that is the blatantly biased propagandist british broadcasting corporation. Demolished all of the absurd questions with a positive response. Well done.

  37. The hypocrisy, the lies, the defamation, the sheer brass neck of Curran and Harris is fairly staggering. They bleat and whine about the cruel and vindictive cybernat in one breath and in the very next assault the FM and the cyber community on a level below that of the gutter. They cry foul over the use of words like quisling and traitor yet are happy to consider the thought of a man run down by a bus and letting the driver off for good behaviour. Or in Gray’s case being allowed to call the FM a liar and get away with it Scot free! But as the great orators of Labour Westminster would say that’s part of the rough and tumble of Scottish politics eh? Maybe we should develop a tougher skin? It will be a cold day in hell before my skin will be that tough.

    Salmond is the Devil incarnate! They don’t see a problem with their line of reasoning. The thing that is missing from your politicians (for any unionist party member scanning here) is a lack of humanity, a lack of empathy and a lack of simple common feeling for the electorate. I have been on-line blogging for a good wee while now and prior to this read the posts on many, many sites. Until last year politics and in particular Scottish politics gave me the dry boak. I always had independence sympathies and helped in small ways in the background, but never really acted upon them publicly till Cameron came to power and I saw ‘Son of Maggie the Return’ hoving into view. The thought of giving any vote to a now corrupt, morally deficient and despicable Labour party leadership didn’t even cross my horizon.

    I have never used the words traitor or quisling, I prefer brainwashed, greedy, ermine bound, trougher, wrong or misguided, depending on level of addiction to unionism. I am more than willing to admit that there are folks on both sides of this argument who use offensive language, but lets be ABSOLUTELY CLEAR here, by far and above the most civilized of posters on the internet are the cybernats. When it comes to vitriol and venom we have a lot of catching up to do to come close to the likes of Curran, Harris, Davidson, Lamont and the other guy, you know, whatzizname…….the Guy Milliband couldn’t remember either, named after a raincoat I think.

    I’ve been waiting a whole day to get that off me chest! :0)

  38. speaking of on-line polls (sorry to be O/T)
    Has anybody else noticed ToryHooses miraculous appearance of “Punity Jockland”
    which has apparently over a 1000 auto-generated “Likes”. No that’s just me being cynical. I sure a thousand ordinary members of the Scottish public just discovered them in their plaintive search for the positive case for the union. Shame they haven’t found any space on the site to publish any 😉

  39. Westminster has £700Billion to spend. Scottish Block Grant £27/28Billion (Plus £16Billion? Pensions etc). Scottish Oil & Tax Revenues going to the UK Treasury, this year, £12.5Billion+

  40. Brewer was actually reasonable to John Swinney – so I watched it. Otherwise turn over or switch off. Actually agreeing that the (increased) capital spend will be shaved off from the Grant (Pittance) not new money, as Mundell was claiming.

  41. On the subject of the Leveson Inquiry. We are hearing so much about those poor hard done celebrities and how they have been treated by the nasty media.

    Everyone appears blissfully unaware that in Scotland the media is akin to a totalitarian dictatorship. Working hard to subvert democracy and freedom. Actively lying to the public inventing news stories or putting a slant on a story for propaganda purposes. A political party Labour has placemen in all branches of the media. That disgusting party is happy to subvert freedom and democracy because all they care about is having control and freedom to make money and promote their members.

    Surely rather than focus on poor celebs they need to focus on the fact they have sold out on democracy.

    • Absolutely agree, Islegard. The decades-long foulness of the ‘Labour in Scotland’ octopus remains a danger to Scottish society until its tentacles are firmly cut out of the media.

  42. OT again but if I hear or see another mention of the Mekon in Brazil on Reporting Jockland someone’ll have to build another darkened room just for me. Every flaming night it’s been covered, How much coverage will we get of the First Minister’s visit to China next week? Probably the same as we got of his visits to the Middle East..only if they can pick up something to critisise him on.

    Now could you please shift up a bit, I need in.

    • [quote name=”Fungus”]… How much coverage will we get of the First Minister’s visit to China next week?
      [/quote]

      I was thinking the same thing myself. I will be watching with interest for the opporchancity to receive another bland response to my complaint to the EBC.

      I see they even have their own “reporter” in Rio – nice gig if you can get it – what a pity it rained.
      Did the Scottish Office pay his expenses, one wonders?

  43. How unprofessional and childish. This woman Curran is meant to be the Shadow Scottish Secretary. She doesnt represent Scotland in any way. Labour really are scraping the bottom of the barrel. If they wish to turn around their fortunates the need to recruit people with a bit of decorum.

  44. Checked out bela caledonia
    – thanks for the tip.
    I love the Che/Rabbie Burns image
    -I want that on a T-shirt or seat shirt!

  45. I notice Sterrheid Mags crossed the picket line at Westminster today. Had she still been at Holyrood she certainly would not have. Where is the consistancy in these people?

  46. The remarks by Curran and Harris simply shows the level of desperation which exists in the Labour & Unionist camp as we enter the final straight of 2011.

    Most of their own supporters don’t believe the current howls coming from their ‘leaders’ never mind the average voter.

    As the best candidate Harris really lets himself down with this latest batch of poorly thought out mince.

    As for Salmond ‘falling’ under a bus. The SNP Juggernaut is moving at such speed even Jackie Baillie could guide it the last few miles to Independence.

    As it is we have a number of very strong candidates throughout the SNP who could take over the ship and steer us into Independence, from Nicola and Mike Russell in Holyrood to Stewart Hosie and Angus Robertson in Westminster or even Alyn Smith in Europe.

    Personally I think a combo of Nicola and Stewart Hosie would be my ideal choice. But for the foreseeable future I would ask Alex to steer well clear of any buses, especially any driven by Ms Curran :0)

  47. To put it in so many words. Curran would like to see Salmond dead. What a thing for a reponsible politician to infer.

    • I think you have hit the nail on the head there J Wil. A responsible politician would [b]not[/b] have made that inference. These sort of inferences can only come from the likes of Stairheid Rammy and her friends, all irresponsible politicians!

  48. She isn’t inferring J Wil, she is implying.
    It is you that is inferring.
    Don’t worry though: it’s a common enough grammatical mistake. Best, however, not to give the enemy any more ammunition than they already have.

  49. Alex has gained another unionist enemy.using rhetoric, common to her Westminster compatriots when they fear him. well done labour she,s flying your flag in Scotland. by the way who “was” Margaret Curran?

  50. its plain and simple,labour cant handle alex salmond.end off labour in scotland and its about time to…they had there chance now its s.n.p turn and there doing a good job so far

  51. To try to be fair to Sterrheid Rammy, I think her comment, while tasteless, was an attempt at humour. Maybe she’s trying for the same level of publicity as Frankie Boyle or Ricky Gervais get for their sometimes tasteless “humour”. However, in a Scottish context, doesn’t she realise most of the buses up here are owned by Brian Souter, one of the SNP’s biggest supporters, especially financially? So, Maggie, I’d look left and right several times before crossing a road, if there are any Stagecoach buses in sight, if I were you hen!

    • I think she is positioning herself for Jeremy Clarkson’s job at Top Gear, should her political career faulter.

  52. i tried to voice my complaint against Jeremy clarkson,s libelous slur, to the BBC website to no avail. the BBC has reached an all time low, by there interviews in defense of clarksons i,d take them outside and have them all shot in front of there relatives.admirable words in a fascist regime. needless to say his friend David Cameron defended him by saying he didn’t really mean it?
    during the riots he said parts of this country are roten.maybe deep down like his pal jeremy,he aggrees the protesters should be shot to!

  53. [quote]‘If Salmond run down by bus – I wouldn’t ask who did it’
    [/quote]

    -Margaret Curran

    [quote]I know people say, ‘there’s just as much antagonism on the Labour side’ and ‘Labour people are just as nasty’ – that’s a lie, that’s wrong, and it’s demonstrably wrong.”
    [/quote]

    -Mr Harris

    [quote]
    Irony much?
    [/quote]

    -me

  54. Margaret Curren’s remarks are disgraceful, our politics might differ but that is no exuse to make comments like that.

    Speaking to Holyrood.com Mr Harris said: “I think there’s absolutely no chance at all that Alex Salmond, left to his own devices, will actually ask an honest question. It’s in his nature; he will ask the question that he thinks most likely to be answered with a yes.

    “He will change any rule – literally any rule – in order to get the result he wants. There’s nothing remotely democratic in that.”

    What Mr Harris the unionists would not put a 40% rule on a vote! they would not phrase the question there way if they were running it.

    This is typical Labour, not in power so will say anything to get in the media and keep proving they are out of touch with the voters.

  55. Curran is like the majority of the unionists who hate Alex salmond as they say in one hand he is not popular with voters, then on the other that he is a one man phenomenon.when on his demise like falling under a bus the party would disintegrate.what a chuckle!

  56. Just take a look at the Labour site, [u][b]Labour Hame[/b][/u], and then you will see the spite, pure hatred and vitriol they have for the SNP.
    Margarette Curran is a typical example of a unionist, whose bitter hatred lets her get the better of herself. If people like that become a government, then watch out, governments can become murderers.

    • Aye Aungus but thats why people like curran/harris/foulkes are there, its not because they are just YES people, its because they would do anything/say anything against there own people to please there masters.

  57. Curran & Co realise that if the Union’s up, their careers are up.
    Ffoulkes unusually quiet, must be appearing as a Panto Dame somewhere!

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