I’m on board of firm that employs your disabled son, so support Labour – rebel told

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By G.A.Ponsonby
 
A former Glasgow Labour councillor has revealed that she was approached by a former colleague who said she should support the party in a crucial budget vote because her disabled son had an apprenticeship at an organisation on whose board he sat.
 
Anne Marie Millar claimed that the un-named councillor had asked her to support Labour’s budget yesterday afternoon because her son had an apprenticeship with City Building, a firm controlled by the Labour run local authority.

By G.A.Ponsonby
 
A former Glasgow Labour councillor has revealed that she was approached by a former colleague who said she should support the party in a crucial budget vote because her disabled son had an apprenticeship at an organisation on whose board he sat.
 
Anne Marie Millar claimed that the un-named councillor had asked her to support Labour’s budget yesterday afternoon because her son had an apprenticeship with City Building, a firm controlled by the Labour run local authority.

Speaking to STV, Ms Millar claimed she was asked to vote for the Labour group “one more time” and claimed she was put under intense pressure to support her former party.

“A colleague spoke to me and said he sat on the board of City Building and asked if my son had an apprenticeship there.

“I asked him if he was threatening my son’s apprenticeship.  He can have all the goes at me that he likes but don’t bring my son into it.”

A clearly distraught Ms Millar, who resigned from the party this week, was unable to conclude an interview with an STV reporter and broke down when describing how her son, who has a disability, had “fought hard to get where he is today”.

The claims will pile even more pressure on beleaguered council leader Gordon Matheson whose political career remains on the line after his Labour group won a narrow vote by 40 votes to 38 after several Labour councillors resigned and voted with the opposition.

The Labour group has now lost five councillors in less than two weeks, with three resignations coming in one 24 hour period. 

Resignations have rocked the party whose leader, Matheson, is facing allegations that he is presiding over a culture of bullying and of control freakery.  Opposition councillors have now called on the man who replaced disgraced former leader Stephen Purcell to step down.

Some former Labour councillors have attacked the decision to allow candidates for May’s local elections to be chosen by London and have threatened to stand as independents.

Mr Matheson’s Labour group are now facing the prospect of Labour candidates chosen by the party’s London machine standing against their former colleagues in May’s Glasgow council elections.

346 COMMENTS

  1. This is truly shameful. Labour in Scotland have literally lost the plot.

    I cannot see a future for Labour, if this is the way they are behaving. No wonder so many Labour members have quit.

    • Robert Louis

      “ [i]This is truly shameful. Labour in Scotland have literally lost the plot.[/i] “

      Agreed.

      I can only think of one word to describe them, but alas the moderators would not be to happy if I used it.

      • [quote name=”Roll_On_2011″]Robert Louis

        “ [i]This is truly shameful. Labour in Scotland have literally lost the plot.[/i] “

        Agreed.

        I can only think of one word to describe them, but alas the moderators would not be to happy if I used it.[/quote]
        I think the only way to pass the moderators would be to quote John Major,,The Bastards.
        If the modeators dont like the word(s)i am using i apoligise.

      • [quote name=”Roll_On_2011″]Robert Louis

        “ [i]This is truly shameful. Labour in Scotland have literally lost the plot.[/i] “

        Agreed.

        I can only think of one word to describe them, but alas the moderators would not be to happy if I used it.[/quote]
        I think the only way to pass the moderators would be to quote John Major,,The Bastards.
        If the modeators dont like the word(s)i am using i apoligise.

    • Robert Louis

      “ [i]This is truly shameful. Labour in Scotland have literally lost the plot.[/i] “

      Agreed.

      I can only think of one word to describe them, but alas the moderators would not be to happy if I used it.

    • Not only shameful Robert, I found these gutter politics beneath contempt, [b]absolutely disgusting !!![/b].

      I watched this lady reduced to tears, that was enough for me.

    • Not only shameful Robert, I found these gutter politics beneath contempt, [b]absolutely disgusting !!![/b].

      I watched this lady reduced to tears, that was enough for me.

    • The sickening thing is there are mugs who will STILL vote Labour! A vote for Labour is a declaration of Ignorance.

  2. This is truly shameful. Labour in Scotland have literally lost the plot.

    I cannot see a future for Labour, if this is the way they are behaving. No wonder so many Labour members have quit.

  3. Did the threat have the desired effect and did Ms Millar vote for Labour?

    This HAS to be investigated.

    • It’s immaterial to me how she voted Louperdowg.
      Some things in life are far more important to me than beating Labour.

      • What I meant was did the threat work from Labour’s point of view or did Ms Millar stand up to them?

        • @louperdowg
          [i]What I meant was did the threat work from Labour’s point of view or did Ms Millar stand up to them?[/i]

          She resigned on Wednesday evening along with two other councillors she was talking about the pressure being put on ahead of her decision on Wednesday.

        • @louperdowg
          [i]What I meant was did the threat work from Labour’s point of view or did Ms Millar stand up to them?[/i]

          She resigned on Wednesday evening along with two other councillors she was talking about the pressure being put on ahead of her decision on Wednesday.

      • What I meant was did the threat work from Labour’s point of view or did Ms Millar stand up to them?

      • [quote name=”Jim Johnston”]It’s immaterial to me how she voted Louperdowg.
        Some things in life are far more important to me than beating Labour.[/quote]

        This is far more important than who wins the election Jim. This is about usurping the democratic process. It IS vitally important to know whether someone’s democratic will has been coerced.
        I recall being taught about the “old” politics of the whigs and tories, about rotten burghs, about landowners and gentry running the political landscape for their own good. Bribery and corruption we were told were rife. What’s changed?
        RIPUK.

        • She didn’t vote in favour. Irfan Rabbani said so in a statement.

          Her vote was ‘coerced’ whether the coercion worked or not, so a crime still took place.

        • She didn’t vote in favour. Irfan Rabbani said so in a statement.

          Her vote was ‘coerced’ whether the coercion worked or not, so a crime still took place.

      • [quote name=”Jim Johnston”]It’s immaterial to me how she voted Louperdowg.
        Some things in life are far more important to me than beating Labour.[/quote]

        This is far more important than who wins the election Jim. This is about usurping the democratic process. It IS vitally important to know whether someone’s democratic will has been coerced.
        I recall being taught about the “old” politics of the whigs and tories, about rotten burghs, about landowners and gentry running the political landscape for their own good. Bribery and corruption we were told were rife. What’s changed?
        RIPUK.

    • It’s immaterial to me how she voted Louperdowg.
      Some things in life are far more important to me than beating Labour.

  4. Did the threat have the desired effect and did Ms Millar vote for Labour?

    This HAS to be investigated.

  5. That is truly disgusting. Covertly threatening the councillor with the future prospects of her disabled son has to be one of the lowest stunts I have seen lately. (Have seen much lower in past though)
    It shows the measure of the sociopaths we are dealing with in all our attempts to make a better more equitable and kinder world for us all here in Scotland.
    Councillor Millar deserves copious support for standing up to the bullying.

    • [quote name=”Ben Power”]That is truly disgusting. Covertly threatening the councillor with the future prospects of her disabled son has to be one of the lowest stunts I have seen lately. (Have seen much lower in past though)
      It shows the measure of the sociopaths we are dealing with in all our attempts to make a better more equitable and kinder world for us all here in Scotland.
      Councillor Millar deserves copious support for standing up to the bullying.[/quote]

      If one very courageous lady, is brave enough to step up and tell her story, it begs the question – how many wee sleekit coorin timerous beasties gaed in tae vote under duress?

    • [quote name=”Ben Power”]That is truly disgusting. Covertly threatening the councillor with the future prospects of her disabled son has to be one of the lowest stunts I have seen lately. (Have seen much lower in past though)
      It shows the measure of the sociopaths we are dealing with in all our attempts to make a better more equitable and kinder world for us all here in Scotland.
      Councillor Millar deserves copious support for standing up to the bullying.[/quote]

      If one very courageous lady, is brave enough to step up and tell her story, it begs the question – how many wee sleekit coorin timerous beasties gaed in tae vote under duress?

  6. That is truly disgusting. Covertly threatening the councillor with the future prospects of her disabled son has to be one of the lowest stunts I have seen lately. (Have seen much lower in past though)
    It shows the measure of the sociopaths we are dealing with in all our attempts to make a better more equitable and kinder world for us all here in Scotland.
    Councillor Millar deserves copious support for standing up to the bullying.

  7. The shredding machines won’t help now as we will have a long list of those willing to tell where the bodies are buried.

    “We are not run from London” – really!

    • You can’t shred a person’s ability to testify on oath in a court of law.

      Unfortunately the same person could be threatened with physical retribution should they be brave enough to testify.

    • You can’t shred a person’s ability to testify on oath in a court of law.

      Unfortunately the same person could be threatened with physical retribution should they be brave enough to testify.

  8. The shredding machines won’t help now as we will have a long list of those willing to tell where the bodies are buried.

    “We are not run from London” – really!

  9. I look forward to Kaye giving the labour party the opportunity to defend this ‘situation’ as I am sure she would have had it had been the SNP in such turmoil….

    oops almost bit my tongue there.

    • Apparently KayEe Eeee Eeee will be discussing something else completely un-related to Glasgow City Council and Labour.

      There’s a suprise.

      There was just some talk on the subject just there on Good Morning Scotland and apparently, [b]”the SNP have a mountain to climb to win Glasgow and are merely looking to prevent Labour winning an overall majority! …and that Labour lost overall control in the 1970’s, but that only served to sort them out, which resulted in Labour coming back more powerful than ever.”[/b]

      The art of spin eh?

    • Apparently KayEe Eeee Eeee will be discussing something else completely un-related to Glasgow City Council and Labour.

      There’s a suprise.

      There was just some talk on the subject just there on Good Morning Scotland and apparently, [b]”the SNP have a mountain to climb to win Glasgow and are merely looking to prevent Labour winning an overall majority! …and that Labour lost overall control in the 1970’s, but that only served to sort them out, which resulted in Labour coming back more powerful than ever.”[/b]

      The art of spin eh?

  10. I look forward to Kaye giving the labour party the opportunity to defend this ‘situation’ as I am sure she would have had it had been the SNP in such turmoil….

    oops almost bit my tongue there.

  11. Labour in Scotland’s sole raison d’etre is to stay in power as Gordon Brown frequently stated, at all costs.
    Now we see how low they have stooped. Trouble is, they can stoop even lower and are likely to do so as they see their decades old hegemony forever, disappear !.
    Once Glasgow goes to the SNP we can become the one party state. A serious blow for pluralist democracy. One party states eventually corrupt and apart from destroying the country in time, also destroy themselves. It’s a shame they take the people with them.

    • Maybe you can use that to declare the Martial Law we now know that your SDA is in favour of.

      You know, back in the old days with the GDR, DRC etc, we used to say that if a state had “Democracy” in its title, it was a dictatorship.

      I get the feeling that that old rule of thumb might apply to the SDA, given the chance

      • RandomScot:

        Thank you, any potential constitution that enshrines use of martial law is proposing perpetuation of the state by any means – rather than responding to the fundamental issues creating the percieved “need” for the unrest in the first place.

        Any proposing a constitution advocating at any point the use of martial law would NEVER see my vote, as they are fundamentally depriving me of my sovereign and democratic rights.

        • # deepwater 2012-02-10 21:04 –

          I have seen some of your earlierposts on these threads, and you sound like an intelligent person. But you are mistaken if you think anything about martial law ever appeared on the SDA website.

          RandomScot made up his first and third paragraphs out of thin air – or maybe something stronger.

          What RandomScot said in his second paragraph is a generalisation.

      • So you “know” that the SDA is in favour of martial law? Where did you read that? Certainly not on the SDA website, because its draft Constitution is still being compiled and has not been posted yet. Before you invent any more fiction (“lies”, I believe, is the technical expression), I suggest you look up the basic principles of the Constitution the SDA is compiling, and tell us if you find the slightest suggestion of authoritarianism:
        http://www.scottishdemocraticalliance.org/constitution/draft-constitution

        • James:

          I certainly DID read it on the SDA website.

          Just as certainly the website has been updated since I reviewed it last.

          After cursory review I do acknowledge that the section may have been moved / removed, but you do need to apologise for the lying inference – such is something I’d never intentionaly do, and am certain it doesn’t apply here.

          I recall there was a section relating to justice law and order or some such in, and that’s where I remember finding the references on a previous visit.

          I also note I’m not alone in that rememberence – other’s have viewed it there also. They also, by association, should be due apology.

          The fact that I no longer find it there easily is to the credit of the SDA – if it has been removed entirely it is worthy of even greater credit.

          • Sorry if we crossed wires on this, Deepwater. I am not a member of the SDA committee on the constitution, which has now attracted several prominent specialists. Work is going on at the moment on the third draft, and any earlier layman’s quality of work has long since been eliminated. Not being personally involved, I don’t recall a mention of martial law, but I can readily take your word for it.

            It will be a long time before we will be able to finalise the complete programme of policies for independent Scotland. The SNP has its hands full with running the country, and somebody has to take this in hand. I had a meeting with Alex Salmond (whom I have known for decades) not so long ago, when I gave him an assurance of 100% support from the SDA.

            Meantime, we are not only using SDA members to advance the work, but also a whole army of outside experts who because of their positions cannot become members. For example, the article on State Succession in the Independence section of the website was contributed by the head of international law in the foreign ministry of a European country. The SDA has correspondents and expert assistance from California via Canada, Iceland, Scandinavia, Central Europe, Russia, and eastwards to Cambodia and Australia. No doubt it will all have to be brought down into marketplace language for election purposes at some time in the future, but it is the intellectually impeccable in-depth versions that will be needed for the purposes of practical government. At any rate, I hope that we can keep the standard of political debate above the level displayed by our friend .Scot below.

          • That’s a shedload of I pressive and unsubstantiated claims

            Grandiose as some else said elsewhere.

            Luckily we can be reasonably confident they are not true. A Shadowy Cabal of unknown funding, dealing with unnamed foreign Governments, staring their desire to be able to I pose Martial Law then covering up the evidence (as described by Hazel Lewry of Newsnetscotland)

            That us not a democratic movement, that’s the plot of Lord Hurd’s sequel to “Scotch on the Rocks”

          • Sorry if we crossed wires on this, Deepwater. I am not a member of the SDA committee on the constitution, which has now attracted several prominent specialists. Work is going on at the moment on the third draft, and any earlier layman’s quality of work has long since been eliminated. Not being personally involved, I don’t recall a mention of martial law, but I can readily take your word for it.

            It will be a long time before we will be able to finalise the complete programme of policies for independent Scotland. The SNP has its hands full with running the country, and somebody has to take this in hand. I had a meeting with Alex Salmond (whom I have known for decades) not so long ago, when I gave him an assurance of 100% support from the SDA.

            Meantime, we are not only using SDA members to advance the work, but also a whole army of outside experts who because of their positions cannot become members. For example, the article on State Succession in the Independence section of the website was contributed by the head of international law in the foreign ministry of a European country. The SDA has correspondents and expert assistance from California via Canada, Iceland, Scandinavia, Central Europe, Russia, and eastwards to Cambodia and Australia. No doubt it will all have to be brought down into marketplace language for election purposes at some time in the future, but it is the intellectually impeccable in-depth versions that will be needed for the purposes of practical government. At any rate, I hope that we can keep the standard of political debate above the level displayed by our friend .Scot below.

      • RandomScot 2012-02-10 08:19

        Easy for you to invent something so you can slander people you know absolutely nothing about, isn’t it?

        Well, you have just made a public fool of yourself.

        • Hazel Lewry, who writes for NewsnetScotland reported the Constitutional devotion of the SDA to martial law

          Link is here [url]http://www.newsnetscotland.com/index.php/scottish-politics/3032-a-new-scottish-constitution[/url]

          I’ve posted the link a few times but the mods keep deleting them

          Also elsewhere Hazel said
          Hazel Lewry says:
          February 8, 2012 at 2:24 pm
          The SDA are the group which harping on about a “written constitution” an have already started to write one to suit themselves.
          The fact that it includes a paragraph about setting up martial law etc in an ” state emergency” (on whose interpretation of said emergency, may I ask?) is to me concerning. Not so much as empowering people, but setting them up for gradual disempowering and back to being the lackies we were pre independence

          Also the experience of Morag on the same thread
          [url]http://wingsland.podgamer.com/well-thats-that-all-settled-then/#comments[/url]

          further backs up my feelings that the SDA, who did not put themselves up for election in 2011 and who came nowhere in 2007 when the SEP, brook no examination or public scrutiny

          • RandomScot – 2012-02-12 22:47

            Sorry I didn’t catch you sooner. You must be ranting about some group other than the SDA. I believe ‘farrochie’ at 2012-02-12 22:11 might have put his finger on your error with his question: “Confused with the SDL?”

            Confused with the SDL?

    • Maybe you can use that to declare the Martial Law we now know that your SDA is in favour of.

      You know, back in the old days with the GDR, DRC etc, we used to say that if a state had “Democracy” in its title, it was a dictatorship.

      I get the feeling that that old rule of thumb might apply to the SDA, given the chance

    • [quote name=”UpSpake”]Labour in Scotland’s sole raison d’etre is to stay in power as Gordon Brown frequently stated, at all costs.
      Now we see how low they have stooped. Trouble is, they can stoop even lower and are likely to do so as they see their decades old hegemony forever, disappear !.
      Once Glasgow goes to the SNP we can become the one party state. A serious blow for pluralist democracy. One party states eventually corrupt and apart from destroying the country in time, also destroy themselves. It’s a shame they take the people with them.[/quote]

      Irony is not one of the tools in your box is it Upsake? Glasgow has been a one party state for as long as anyone can remember as was Scotland until 2007. Take a wee dauner through Springburn or The Drum and see for your self. Have a look at the empty River Clyde, an asset that any large City would love to have, ignored by Labour. Except that is to sell the real estate on the banks of the river to line their pockets. How do councillors become millionaires in Glasgow?

      But I agree with one thing.Labour will stoop as low as it takes to hold on to what they have.

    • [quote name=”UpSpake”]Labour in Scotland’s sole raison d’etre is to stay in power as Gordon Brown frequently stated, at all costs.
      Now we see how low they have stooped. Trouble is, they can stoop even lower and are likely to do so as they see their decades old hegemony forever, disappear !.
      Once Glasgow goes to the SNP we can become the one party state. A serious blow for pluralist democracy. One party states eventually corrupt and apart from destroying the country in time, also destroy themselves. It’s a shame they take the people with them.[/quote]

      Irony is not one of the tools in your box is it Upsake? Glasgow has been a one party state for as long as anyone can remember as was Scotland until 2007. Take a wee dauner through Springburn or The Drum and see for your self. Have a look at the empty River Clyde, an asset that any large City would love to have, ignored by Labour. Except that is to sell the real estate on the banks of the river to line their pockets. How do councillors become millionaires in Glasgow?

      But I agree with one thing.Labour will stoop as low as it takes to hold on to what they have.

    • [quote name=”UpSpake”]Labour in Scotland’s sole raison d’etre is to stay in power as Gordon Brown frequently stated, at all costs.
      Now we see how low they have stooped. Trouble is, they can stoop even lower and are likely to do so as they see their decades old hegemony forever, disappear !.
      Once Glasgow goes to the SNP we can become the one party state. A serious blow for pluralist democracy. One party states eventually corrupt and apart from destroying the country in time, also destroy themselves. It’s a shame they take the people with them.[/quote]

      It’s never going to happen. There are too many shades of the political spectrum, painted with a very broad brush, in the SNP. The party will go on after the inevitable independence vote. Such a broadly brushed party will then split into its component parts. Witness the situation that arose when that great lady Margo became an independent member, her heart remains with the movement. The present MSPs will become the basis of the new Scottish political pareties in the independent country of Scotland

    • [quote name=”UpSpake”]Labour in Scotland’s sole raison d’etre is to stay in power as Gordon Brown frequently stated, at all costs.
      Now we see how low they have stooped. Trouble is, they can stoop even lower and are likely to do so as they see their decades old hegemony forever, disappear !.
      Once Glasgow goes to the SNP we can become the one party state. A serious blow for pluralist democracy. One party states eventually corrupt and apart from destroying the country in time, also destroy themselves. It’s a shame they take the people with them.[/quote]

      It’s never going to happen. There are too many shades of the political spectrum, painted with a very broad brush, in the SNP. The party will go on after the inevitable independence vote. Such a broadly brushed party will then split into its component parts. Witness the situation that arose when that great lady Margo became an independent member, her heart remains with the movement. The present MSPs will become the basis of the new Scottish political pareties in the independent country of Scotland

    • UpSpake, Glasgow has been a one party state for the last 70 years and that is what’s wrong with the way Glasgow has always been run. We deserve better and it is hoped that enough people will vote differently in May to change that.

  12. Labour in Scotland’s sole raison d’etre is to stay in power as Gordon Brown frequently stated, at all costs.
    Now we see how low they have stooped. Trouble is, they can stoop even lower and are likely to do so as they see their decades old hegemony forever, disappear !.
    Once Glasgow goes to the SNP we can become the one party state. A serious blow for pluralist democracy. One party states eventually corrupt and apart from destroying the country in time, also destroy themselves. It’s a shame they take the people with them.

  13. Upspake – dinna fash yoursel wi worrying aboot a one party state (what are you – Alan Cochrane or Jeremy Paxman in drag?).

    Once Scotland is independent we all know that there will be a realignment of politics – e.g. the SDA say they will move from being a think tank to fielding candidates. Likely that Labour will finally reinvent itself. Who knows maybe even the Fiberals will have a few MSPs! no danger of a one party state whatsoever..

    • I don’t think that it will be a one party state at all but it will take a bit of rejigging on the part of the opposition parties.

      Independence first!

    • I don’t think that it will be a one party state at all but it will take a bit of rejigging on the part of the opposition parties.

      Independence first!

    • [quote name=”derick fae Yell”]

      Once Scotland is independent we all know that there will be a realignment of politics – e.g. the SDA say they will move from being a think tank to fielding candidates.[/quote]

      Ahhh, the SDA!!! “The Tory elitist British Nationalist Party Plan B to introduce nasty bigoted policies to an independent Tory-free Scottish nation”. Please read their manifesto of filth. They are entitled to have that manifesto but they are not entitled to deceive and lie to people that they are either Scottish, Democratic or even a Scottish alliance! That is the same lie as the people’s worker party (LABOUR) which Margaret Thatcher of the SDA espouses as her greatest achievement.

      • How will an independent Scotland be ‘Tory-free’? We already have 15 Tory MSPs. what would happen to them in your vision of an independent Scotland? Internment, perhaps?

        • Ah but they won’t be the toxic tories, in hoc to london, experimenting on us with their tax regimes.

          A Business orientated party in post independence Scotland will have to exist. They may be tories, but not as we know them….

          John

          • I imagine they’ll be Tories exactly as we know them, although I have no doubt that they’ll pretend to be something slightly different.

          • I imagine they’ll be Tories exactly as we know them, although I have no doubt that they’ll pretend to be something slightly different.

        • Ah but they won’t be the toxic tories, in hoc to london, experimenting on us with their tax regimes.

          A Business orientated party in post independence Scotland will have to exist. They may be tories, but not as we know them….

          John

      • How will an independent Scotland be ‘Tory-free’? We already have 15 Tory MSPs. what would happen to them in your vision of an independent Scotland? Internment, perhaps?

      • .Scot
        Let me tell you that I was born and brought up on Clydeside during the interwar period, when I saw and experienced a level of deprivation, and even starvation, such as you and the poorest members of the community nowadays cannot even imagine. I was shipped off to a children’s home with a label tied round my neck, and I spent my childhood playing in bomb craters. I am now an active member of the SDA because it holds out the best prospect of ensuring that such conditions will never return. So if you have nothing constructive to contribute, kindly shut up and stop spewing filth and lies over what should be an objective discussion on our country’s future.

      • .Scot 2012-02-10 15:43 –

        Do you always spew slanderous lies about people and organisations you know nothing about? That certainly doesn’t say much about your intelligence.

        The SDA is not Tory and has nothing to do with the BNP Plan B or any other plan the BNP might have. Why don’t you tell readers where they can find our “manifesto of filth” so they can read it themselves? You can’t because there is no such document.

        Also, please tell readers where they can find “Margaret Thatcher of the SDA”. We would also like to know.

    • [quote name=”derick fae Yell”]

      Once Scotland is independent we all know that there will be a realignment of politics – e.g. the SDA say they will move from being a think tank to fielding candidates.[/quote]

      Ahhh, the SDA!!! “The Tory elitist British Nationalist Party Plan B to introduce nasty bigoted policies to an independent Tory-free Scottish nation”. Please read their manifesto of filth. They are entitled to have that manifesto but they are not entitled to deceive and lie to people that they are either Scottish, Democratic or even a Scottish alliance! That is the same lie as the people’s worker party (LABOUR) which Margaret Thatcher of the SDA espouses as her greatest achievement.

  14. Upspake – dinna fash yoursel wi worrying aboot a one party state (what are you – Alan Cochrane or Jeremy Paxman in drag?).

    Once Scotland is independent we all know that there will be a realignment of politics – e.g. the SDA say they will move from being a think tank to fielding candidates. Likely that Labour will finally reinvent itself. Who knows maybe even the Fiberals will have a few MSPs! no danger of a one party state whatsoever..

  15. There are low dirty swines and then there are Glasgow labour councillors.
    This is truly proof positive that there needs to be a massive cleanout of these chancers.

  16. There are low dirty swines and then there are Glasgow labour councillors.
    This is truly proof positive that there needs to be a massive cleanout of these chancers.

  17. So who sits on the board of City Building. Let’s ask them one by one if it was them who approached Ms Millar. Why aren’t the media demanding to know who made the threat to her?

    • City Building — which has three Labour councillors on its Board. Can anyone tell me who they are?

      Edit
      Stephen Curran – Chair Board of Directors
      Gilbert Davidson
      Mohammed Razaq

      So who approached her, who’s going to ask the question? What about emailing them directly?

      • Its very well hidden on the Glasgow Council Website (if anyone is interested, a quick look of the “Register of Outside Interests” makes you wonder how the Burghers of Glasgow have TIME to be councillors with all of the ALEOS that they sit on)

        The three in Question(?) are

        Steven Curran – Chair
        Gilbert Davidson
        Mohammad Razzaq

        Although, the website is a bit inaccurate in that they haven’t updated it to show the recent, ahem, losses, from The Ruling Labour Group 🙂

        I went through every Labour Councillor and although I assume that this would be the same for the rest of them, almost every one of them sits on the board of an External Body.

        How do we find out about the Renumeration that they get for this ? Anyone any ideas ?

          • So, now that we have the three possible suspects who ALLEGEDLY threatened to take away the apprenticeship of the DISABLED SON of one of their “COLLEAGUES”, all that Councillor Millar has to say is which two it wasn’t.

            What betting that it was a “misunderstanding”, or a “casual remark enquiring after the boy’s progress in a friendly fashion”.

            On the other hand, “Councillor Millar was clearly distraught when she came to terms with the magnitude of the decision that she had mistakenly taken to vote against the interests of the People of Glasgow and unfortunately has simply misinterpreted when one of her friends pointed out directly to her the effect that Voting Down the Budget would have not only on the apprenticeship of her son but indeed all of the apprecnticeships across the City that she so loves”.

            I would say that they are going to find it very hard to spin out of this one but clearly the word has gone out to The Friends at PQ that This Never Happened, Nothing to See Here, Move Along.

          • I thought it was reported that it was an [b]Ex-Labour Councillor[/b], who was now on the board of CBG?

          • I thought it was reported that it was an [b]Ex-Labour Councillor[/b], who was now on the board of CBG?

          • So, now that we have the three possible suspects who ALLEGEDLY threatened to take away the apprenticeship of the DISABLED SON of one of their “COLLEAGUES”, all that Councillor Millar has to say is which two it wasn’t.

            What betting that it was a “misunderstanding”, or a “casual remark enquiring after the boy’s progress in a friendly fashion”.

            On the other hand, “Councillor Millar was clearly distraught when she came to terms with the magnitude of the decision that she had mistakenly taken to vote against the interests of the People of Glasgow and unfortunately has simply misinterpreted when one of her friends pointed out directly to her the effect that Voting Down the Budget would have not only on the apprenticeship of her son but indeed all of the apprecnticeships across the City that she so loves”.

            I would say that they are going to find it very hard to spin out of this one but clearly the word has gone out to The Friends at PQ that This Never Happened, Nothing to See Here, Move Along.

      • Its very well hidden on the Glasgow Council Website (if anyone is interested, a quick look of the “Register of Outside Interests” makes you wonder how the Burghers of Glasgow have TIME to be councillors with all of the ALEOS that they sit on)

        The three in Question(?) are

        Steven Curran – Chair
        Gilbert Davidson
        Mohammad Razzaq

        Although, the website is a bit inaccurate in that they haven’t updated it to show the recent, ahem, losses, from The Ruling Labour Group 🙂

        I went through every Labour Councillor and although I assume that this would be the same for the rest of them, almost every one of them sits on the board of an External Body.

        How do we find out about the Renumeration that they get for this ? Anyone any ideas ?

    • City Building — which has three Labour councillors on its Board. Can anyone tell me who they are?

      Edit
      Stephen Curran – Chair Board of Directors
      Gilbert Davidson
      Mohammed Razaq

      So who approached her, who’s going to ask the question? What about emailing them directly?

  18. So who sits on the board of City Building. Let’s ask them one by one if it was them who approached Ms Millar. Why aren’t the media demanding to know who made the threat to her?

  19. True to form call Kaye is going to discuss Donald Trump and Alex Salmond being “instrumental in getting his golf course” and this furore will be damaging for Alex Salmond……………no debate on Labour’s meltdown in Glasgow …. when BBC is normally very Glasgow orientated…………..quelle surprise………

    • Some of the best from the Segment on WWJ – (8-35 to 8-41) (Apologies if I’m slightly paraphrasing)

      Robbie Dunwoodie.

      “Its almost a shame for Labour in Glasgow as they seem to be getting their act together in Holyrood. They have their new Leader and a new backroom team. They seem to be doing rather well”.

      “Its not about [The SNP] winning. They only want to deny Labour control. Most cities in Scotland are run by coalitions and so Glasgow should probably be no different”.

      Gerry Hassan

      ” The SNP are different. They aren’t “The State” in the way that the Labour party are. The Labour Party in the West of Scotland is more like a self-preservation society. There is no “SNP Machine” as such, the activists on the ground have a belief in their cause, maybe perhaps like the early days of Labour.”

      Says it all really.

    • Some of the best from the Segment on WWJ – (8-35 to 8-41) (Apologies if I’m slightly paraphrasing)

      Robbie Dunwoodie.

      “Its almost a shame for Labour in Glasgow as they seem to be getting their act together in Holyrood. They have their new Leader and a new backroom team. They seem to be doing rather well”.

      “Its not about [The SNP] winning. They only want to deny Labour control. Most cities in Scotland are run by coalitions and so Glasgow should probably be no different”.

      Gerry Hassan

      ” The SNP are different. They aren’t “The State” in the way that the Labour party are. The Labour Party in the West of Scotland is more like a self-preservation society. There is no “SNP Machine” as such, the activists on the ground have a belief in their cause, maybe perhaps like the early days of Labour.”

      Says it all really.

    • I stopped listening to Blawbag Adams long ago. I cannot stand her bias to the SNP. She cannot help dropping snide remarks about Alex. She will probably be dropped after Independence and thats whats worrying her.

    • I stopped listening to Blawbag Adams long ago. I cannot stand her bias to the SNP. She cannot help dropping snide remarks about Alex. She will probably be dropped after Independence and thats whats worrying her.

  20. True to form call Kaye is going to discuss Donald Trump and Alex Salmond being “instrumental in getting his golf course” and this furore will be damaging for Alex Salmond……………no debate on Labour’s meltdown in Glasgow …. when BBC is normally very Glasgow orientated…………..quelle surprise………

  21. Typical bias from Call Kaye. She is allowing the SNP to defend themselves against the attack from Donald Trump while denying the ‘Scottish’ Labour party the opportunity to defend themselves against the
    accusation that Glasgow Labour are in meltdown as resignations rock the party.

    This is diabolical…..

    • And on this story Newsdrive yesterday gave D Trump a free rant after they said the Scottish Government would be coming on later, it never happened, now maybe they said they didn’t want to come on but at least that should have beeen explained. Personally I think the SNP did the wrong thing over the golf course but this Trump tantrum over off shore windfarms has to be put in context.

      • The opposition are shameless. First they hurl brickbats because of the golf course and now they hurl brickbats because Trump has had a spasm over a handful of turbines a mile out to sea. Which is it? Do they support Trump’s grand plan or do they not? Is Salmond Trump’s puppet or bette noir? They can’t have it both ways (well Kaye will try no doubt).

        The golf course is built and the club house is going up. The hotel probably will be built in due course but I doubt the luxury village will be built unless the property market goes back to “like a fair” status

      • The opposition are shameless. First they hurl brickbats because of the golf course and now they hurl brickbats because Trump has had a spasm over a handful of turbines a mile out to sea. Which is it? Do they support Trump’s grand plan or do they not? Is Salmond Trump’s puppet or bette noir? They can’t have it both ways (well Kaye will try no doubt).

        The golf course is built and the club house is going up. The hotel probably will be built in due course but I doubt the luxury village will be built unless the property market goes back to “like a fair” status

      • [quote name=”Albalha”]And on this story Newsdrive yesterday gave D Trump a free rant after they said the Scottish Government would be coming on later, it never happened, now maybe they said they didn’t want to come on but at least that should have beeen explained. Personally I think the SNP did the wrong thing over the golf course but this Trump tantrum over off shore windfarms has to be put in context.[/quote]

        Would you go to Auchterarder and tell the people that James Braid wrecked the landscape there, when he designed and built the award winning golf courses of Gleneagles that sustains the local economy?

        Are you suggesting that all of Scotland’s links courses be torn up and allowed to return to wilderness again, despite them bringing in millions in trade each year?

        Are you suggesting that the local chamber of commerce and the local trades and business people in Aberdeen and Menie are wrong in supporting this development?

        Brora, Golspie, Dornoch, Fortrose, Nairn, Moray, Fraseburgh, Cruden Bay, Royal Aberdeen, Montrose, Arbroath, Monifeith, Panmure, Elie, Crail, St Andrews, Kilspindle, Dunbar, Leven, Musselburgh x2, Longniddrie, Kilspindle, Craigelaw, Lufness, Gullane, Muirfield, North Berwick, Glen, Whitekirk, Winterfield, Dunbar, Troon, Prestwick, Largs, Turnberry (Ailsa’s lighthouse hole is one of the most photographed in the world. Even if you’re not playing it, take a look. The rocks are 390 million years old and from the green you can see the remains of Robert the Bruce’s castle.)

        The above places all depend on Golf to bring much needed trade and commerce to their areas, are you seriosly suggesting that it was wrong to build these links courses also?

        I have played and worked on several of Scotlands top courses, and I can tell you that the stewardship of the land in and around these courses could not be in better hands. At Luss on Loch Lomond they employed a proffessor to advise them how to best preserve the environment and cater for the local wildlife, they have done a sepctacular job. Golf course design and managment is one of the few land based activities that goes to such lengths to preserve and encourage the local wild life and it’s habitats.

        To read some of the hysterical nonsense about the trump development you would think that Alex Salmond and Donald Trump were personally bulldozing Aberdeen shire in to the North Sea whilst eating live babies.

        The Menie estate ill be improved by the golf course which will protect the environment and encourage biodiversity. It will genrate jobs and local commerce, in an area neglected for to long. Previous to that it was a wind blown dump, neglected and unproductive. For the record no SSSI has been wiped out. The newts and butterflies and orchids are perfectly safe. This was a campaign by one obsessed councillor who paid the price for his personal crusade.

        Golf and Scotland are synonomous. Scotland needs to tell the world we are open for business, not a wee parochial backwater, that discourages innovation and investment. Jack McConnel the Labour FM obviously agreed as he was the first to ride on Trumps chopper.

        • @DonaldMhor
          [i]Are you suggesting that all of Scotland’s links courses be torn up and allowed to return to wilderness again, despite them bringing in millions in trade each year?[/i]

          Eh no I’m suggesting that I believe in local political democracy. While I may not have your evident love of all things golf I did trudge round Carnoustie year in year out with my father so don’t need a lecture on Scotland’s relationship with golf.
          But if you’re really suggesting that had the council vote been respected and the Trump plan turned down it would mean Scotland was showing its wee parochial backwaterness then we have very different views of the Scotland of 2012.

          • [quote name=”Albalha”]@DonaldMhor
            Eh no I’m suggesting that I believe in local political democracy.
            But if you’re really suggesting that had the council vote been respected and the Trump plan turned down ……[/quote]

            Remember that the Council Planning Committee voted overwhelmingly in favour. It was a local infrastructure committee which, on the casting vote of a maverick, turned it down. The problem was that the council’s standing orders did not allow the Planning Committee or the whole council to review a rogue decision by a minor committee.
            The majority of local people, the planners and the planning committee were in favour. Hardly a condemnation of local democracy.
            None of the controversy would have festered had it not being for the “personality” of the developer and the Unionist parties trying to score cheap points.

          • @Embradon
            My memory is that the local area committee voted 7/4 in favour and then as per the planning system it went to the infrastructure cttee and the person leading it had to have the casting vote and weren’t there real issues concerning local environmental plans etc?

          • @Embradon
            My memory is that the local area committee voted 7/4 in favour and then as per the planning system it went to the infrastructure cttee and the person leading it had to have the casting vote and weren’t there real issues concerning local environmental plans etc?

          • [quote name=”Albalha”]@DonaldMhor
            Eh no I’m suggesting that I believe in local political democracy.
            But if you’re really suggesting that had the council vote been respected and the Trump plan turned down ……[/quote]

            Remember that the Council Planning Committee voted overwhelmingly in favour. It was a local infrastructure committee which, on the casting vote of a maverick, turned it down. The problem was that the council’s standing orders did not allow the Planning Committee or the whole council to review a rogue decision by a minor committee.
            The majority of local people, the planners and the planning committee were in favour. Hardly a condemnation of local democracy.
            None of the controversy would have festered had it not being for the “personality” of the developer and the Unionist parties trying to score cheap points.

          • The only reason Trump hates wind turbines is because they blow his comb-over away.

          • The only reason Trump hates wind turbines is because they blow his comb-over away.

        • @DonaldMhor
          [i]Are you suggesting that all of Scotland’s links courses be torn up and allowed to return to wilderness again, despite them bringing in millions in trade each year?[/i]

          Eh no I’m suggesting that I believe in local political democracy. While I may not have your evident love of all things golf I did trudge round Carnoustie year in year out with my father so don’t need a lecture on Scotland’s relationship with golf.
          But if you’re really suggesting that had the council vote been respected and the Trump plan turned down it would mean Scotland was showing its wee parochial backwaterness then we have very different views of the Scotland of 2012.

        • Oh! Get real! We are talking about one very rich man who personally hates wind turbines. I know from speaking to real people all over Scotland, and indeed many others on holiday, that many people find the turbines quite beautiful. I was in the habit of parking my wee motorhome in a weel kent Borders viewpoint that sprouted a turbine background. I found that there were ofter people who stopped with no other aim than to admire them. O.K., they were a bit more of a novel sight then but nothing seems to have changed. There is alway someone stopped in a layby to view the windfarms.

          • He does seem to have a bee in his bonnet about them. Does he fancy a nuclear plant next door to his course I wonder?

            A turbine right beside the course would be distracting and not compatible with holding major sporting events. A turbine more than a mile out to sea will be visible but inaudible and movement impercetible. His rant (and by God it really is a rant) is way over the top.

          • Trump does rants about all manner of things from time to time, over in the USA. I wouldn’t put too much importance to this.

            The BBC will obviously run with it for weeks, and try ‘bigging’ it up.

            The BBC, bringing anti Scotland, unionist propaganda into your home 24/7.

          • Trump does rants about all manner of things from time to time, over in the USA. I wouldn’t put too much importance to this.

            The BBC will obviously run with it for weeks, and try ‘bigging’ it up.

            The BBC, bringing anti Scotland, unionist propaganda into your home 24/7.

          • He is a republican neo-con after all. Oil, nuclear, invade the evil doers and praise the lord.
            He doesn’t appear to think that the ubiquitous collection of oil support vessels, tankers and the like make the bay untidy.

          • He is a republican neo-con after all. Oil, nuclear, invade the evil doers and praise the lord.
            He doesn’t appear to think that the ubiquitous collection of oil support vessels, tankers and the like make the bay untidy.

          • He does seem to have a bee in his bonnet about them. Does he fancy a nuclear plant next door to his course I wonder?

            A turbine right beside the course would be distracting and not compatible with holding major sporting events. A turbine more than a mile out to sea will be visible but inaudible and movement impercetible. His rant (and by God it really is a rant) is way over the top.

        • Oh! Get real! We are talking about one very rich man who personally hates wind turbines. I know from speaking to real people all over Scotland, and indeed many others on holiday, that many people find the turbines quite beautiful. I was in the habit of parking my wee motorhome in a weel kent Borders viewpoint that sprouted a turbine background. I found that there were ofter people who stopped with no other aim than to admire them. O.K., they were a bit more of a novel sight then but nothing seems to have changed. There is alway someone stopped in a layby to view the windfarms.

      • [quote name=”Albalha”]And on this story Newsdrive yesterday gave D Trump a free rant after they said the Scottish Government would be coming on later, it never happened, now maybe they said they didn’t want to come on but at least that should have beeen explained. Personally I think the SNP did the wrong thing over the golf course but this Trump tantrum over off shore windfarms has to be put in context.[/quote]

        Would you go to Auchterarder and tell the people that James Braid wrecked the landscape there, when he designed and built the award winning golf courses of Gleneagles that sustains the local economy?

        Are you suggesting that all of Scotland’s links courses be torn up and allowed to return to wilderness again, despite them bringing in millions in trade each year?

        Are you suggesting that the local chamber of commerce and the local trades and business people in Aberdeen and Menie are wrong in supporting this development?

        Brora, Golspie, Dornoch, Fortrose, Nairn, Moray, Fraseburgh, Cruden Bay, Royal Aberdeen, Montrose, Arbroath, Monifeith, Panmure, Elie, Crail, St Andrews, Kilspindle, Dunbar, Leven, Musselburgh x2, Longniddrie, Kilspindle, Craigelaw, Lufness, Gullane, Muirfield, North Berwick, Glen, Whitekirk, Winterfield, Dunbar, Troon, Prestwick, Largs, Turnberry (Ailsa’s lighthouse hole is one of the most photographed in the world. Even if you’re not playing it, take a look. The rocks are 390 million years old and from the green you can see the remains of Robert the Bruce’s castle.)

        The above places all depend on Golf to bring much needed trade and commerce to their areas, are you seriosly suggesting that it was wrong to build these links courses also?

        I have played and worked on several of Scotlands top courses, and I can tell you that the stewardship of the land in and around these courses could not be in better hands. At Luss on Loch Lomond they employed a proffessor to advise them how to best preserve the environment and cater for the local wildlife, they have done a sepctacular job. Golf course design and managment is one of the few land based activities that goes to such lengths to preserve and encourage the local wild life and it’s habitats.

        To read some of the hysterical nonsense about the trump development you would think that Alex Salmond and Donald Trump were personally bulldozing Aberdeen shire in to the North Sea whilst eating live babies.

        The Menie estate ill be improved by the golf course which will protect the environment and encourage biodiversity. It will genrate jobs and local commerce, in an area neglected for to long. Previous to that it was a wind blown dump, neglected and unproductive. For the record no SSSI has been wiped out. The newts and butterflies and orchids are perfectly safe. This was a campaign by one obsessed councillor who paid the price for his personal crusade.

        Golf and Scotland are synonomous. Scotland needs to tell the world we are open for business, not a wee parochial backwater, that discourages innovation and investment. Jack McConnel the Labour FM obviously agreed as he was the first to ride on Trumps chopper.

      • [quote name=”Albalha”]And on this story Newsdrive yesterday gave D Trump a free rant after they said the Scottish Government would be coming on later, it never happened, now maybe they said they didn’t want to come on but at least that should have beeen explained. Personally I think the SNP did the wrong thing over the golf course but this Trump tantrum over off shore windfarms has to be put in context.[/quote]
        My enemy’s enemy is my friend.
        When Trump appeared pro SNP he was attacked over his resort plans, now he appears anti-SNP he’s feted by the Biased Broadcasting Corporation. Who’d have thought it?

        • [b]Jester[/b]

          I am standing by my decision to not pay a licence fee because of that very good example you gave.

        • [b]Jester[/b]

          I am standing by my decision to not pay a licence fee because of that very good example you gave.

      • [quote name=”Albalha”]And on this story Newsdrive yesterday gave D Trump a free rant after they said the Scottish Government would be coming on later, it never happened, now maybe they said they didn’t want to come on but at least that should have beeen explained. Personally I think the SNP did the wrong thing over the golf course but this Trump tantrum over off shore windfarms has to be put in context.[/quote]
        My enemy’s enemy is my friend.
        When Trump appeared pro SNP he was attacked over his resort plans, now he appears anti-SNP he’s feted by the Biased Broadcasting Corporation. Who’d have thought it?

      • Interesting rant in the Times today by Donald Trump. He claims that Jack McConnell et al, when in government at Holyrood, were in agreement to his building a golf course and would back him on this; also that McConnell assured him there would be no windmills built anywhere near his golf resort.

        Is this the same Labour group, now in opposition at Holyrood, who pointed the finger at Alex Salmond accusing him of dodgy dealings with Trump

        Usual Labour hypocrisy.

    • And on this story Newsdrive yesterday gave D Trump a free rant after they said the Scottish Government would be coming on later, it never happened, now maybe they said they didn’t want to come on but at least that should have beeen explained. Personally I think the SNP did the wrong thing over the golf course but this Trump tantrum over off shore windfarms has to be put in context.

  22. Typical bias from Call Kaye. She is allowing the SNP to defend themselves against the attack from Donald Trump while denying the ‘Scottish’ Labour party the opportunity to defend themselves against the
    accusation that Glasgow Labour are in meltdown as resignations rock the party.

    This is diabolical…..

  23. Total silence about the claims of threats against soon to be ex-Labour councillors on BBC Scotland – anywhere …. there’s a surprise … while STV are at least making clear what went on.

    I wonder how long before Patten’s new directive is enforced at Pacific Quay … as if!

  24. Total silence about the claims of threats against soon to be ex-Labour councillors on BBC Scotland – anywhere …. there’s a surprise … while STV are at least making clear what went on.

    I wonder how long before Patten’s new directive is enforced at Pacific Quay … as if!

  25. Upspake, I personally do not think Scotland will ever be a one party state but if the Scottish unionists get behind Independence and vote for it they will have a legitimate say in what happens to Scotland in the future. Their problem as demonstrated after the Scottish budget was they have no alternative vision for Scotland. FMQs was a joke, more interested in having a go at AS than looking to improve Scotland for the benefit of fellow Scots. They have all elected new leaders who would rather give Scotland’s wealth to Westminster than build a new, fairer and equitable society in Scotland. They are where they are because of their failings, not because of the nasty SNP.

  26. Upspake, I personally do not think Scotland will ever be a one party state but if the Scottish unionists get behind Independence and vote for it they will have a legitimate say in what happens to Scotland in the future. Their problem as demonstrated after the Scottish budget was they have no alternative vision for Scotland. FMQs was a joke, more interested in having a go at AS than looking to improve Scotland for the benefit of fellow Scots. They have all elected new leaders who would rather give Scotland’s wealth to Westminster than build a new, fairer and equitable society in Scotland. They are where they are because of their failings, not because of the nasty SNP.

  27. What Labour giveth in Glasgow it can taketh away.

    Is that the reality of the apprenticeship schemes in Glasgow? One based on Labour patronage, not merit nor need.

    There is a lot more to this than meets the eye.

  28. What Labour giveth in Glasgow it can taketh away.

    Is that the reality of the apprenticeship schemes in Glasgow? One based on Labour patronage, not merit nor need.

    There is a lot more to this than meets the eye.

  29. Struan Stevenson Tory MEP first guest on Call Kaye kicking windfarms saying he’ll stand beside Trump, and his wife is an Editor of Newsdrive, yes I know couples are not politically tied at the hip BUT seen to be fair and balanced surely, I’ve said it before but this would not be tolerated in London BBC.

  30. Struan Stevenson Tory MEP first guest on Call Kaye kicking windfarms saying he’ll stand beside Trump, and his wife is an Editor of Newsdrive, yes I know couples are not politically tied at the hip BUT seen to be fair and balanced surely, I’ve said it before but this would not be tolerated in London BBC.

  31. I dont believe we will be a one-party state either. There are enough decent people in ALL the parties who will step up to be heard, even the tories. (Although if Ruth Davidson’s the best they can muster…!?).
    Once all the parties see that Independence is a reality, they will start to form their parties. However a constitution that does not allow what has gone on in Glasgow over the last long while with the Labour party, must be a priority

  32. I dont believe we will be a one-party state either. There are enough decent people in ALL the parties who will step up to be heard, even the tories. (Although if Ruth Davidson’s the best they can muster…!?).
    Once all the parties see that Independence is a reality, they will start to form their parties. However a constitution that does not allow what has gone on in Glasgow over the last long while with the Labour party, must be a priority

  33. So did she vote for Labour or not ?

    The vote was lost 40/38 – her vote could have made significant difference to the outcome.

    If she and possibly some other renegade Labour Councillors had stuck to their guns of leaving the Labour party and not voting for them, then the threat against her son may have proven to be irrelevant as Labour would be currently packing their bags as a council and vacating the premises.

    Sorry to take a tough angle on this, but did she or did she not vote Labour ?

    • According to Irfan Rabbani, she didn’t. I saw a statement last night in which he praised the councillor for her bravery in standing up to them.

    • According to Irfan Rabbani, she didn’t. I saw a statement last night in which he praised the councillor for her bravery in standing up to them.

    • The vote breakdown 1 voted with Labour 2 voted with opposition Listed by name, ward, party then how voted

      Docherty Linn,Labour,1
      Ritchie Linn,SNP,2
      [u]Deans Newlands/Auldbu,Independent,1[/u] left SNP
      McNally Newlands/Auldbu,Labour,1
      Butt Govan,Labour,1
      Cameron Garscadden/Scot,Labour,1
      Carey Drumchapel/Anni,Labour,1
      Chalmers East Centre,Labour,1
      Meikle Pollokshields,Conservative,2
      Hunter Govan,SNP,2
      Simpson Calton,Labour,1
      Clark Linn,Liberal Democrat,2
      [b]Morrison Greater Pollok,Labour,2[/b]
      Curran Newlands/Auldbu,Labour,1
      McFadden Garscadden/Scot,Labour,1
      [b]Black Craigton,Labour,2[/b]
      Docherty East Centre,Labour,1
      Kerr Craigton,Labour,1
      [b]Dornan Govan,Labour,2[/b]
      Malik Hillhead,Labour,1
      Findlay Drumchapel/Anni,Labour,1
      Flanagan Govan,Labour,1
      Malik Pollokshields,SNP,2
      Gibson Craigton,SNP,2
      Glass Greater Pollok,Labour,1
      Graham Langside,Labour,1
      [i]Rabbani Pollokshields,SNP,2[/i]new from Labour
      Coleshill Langside,Liberal Democrat,2
      Hurcombe Canal,Labour,1
      Dornan Langside,SNP,2
      Leonard North East,Labour,1
      Thoms North East,SNP,2
      McAllister Canal,SNP,2
      Thewliss Calton,SNP,2
      Wardrop Hillhead,Green Party,2
      Baker Anderston/City,Green Party,2
      McDougall East Centre,Labour,1
      Mackechnie Canal,Labour,1
      Coleman Baillieston,Labour,1
      Ryan Shettleston,Labour,1
      Clay Partick West,Green Party,2
      McLeod Shettleston,Labour,1
      McLean Partick West,SNP,2
      Braat Anderston/City,Labour,1
      McMaster North East,Labour,1
      MacKay Anderston/City,SNP,2
      Elder Hillhead,Liberal Democrat,2
      Mason Partick West,Liberal Democrat,2
      Turner Baillieston,SNP,2
      Matheson Anderston/City,Labour,1
      [b]Miller Southside Centr,Labour,2[/b]
      Hendry Garscadden/Scot,SNP,2
      McTaggart Drumchapel/Anni,Labour,1
      McDonald Baillieston,SNP,2
      Dingwall Maryhill/Kelvin,Liberal Democrat,2
      [b]O’Rourke Greater Pollok,Labour,2[/b]
      Wild Canal,Green Party,2
      Greene Springburn,SNP,2
      Paris Maryhill/Kelvin,Liberal Democrat,2
      Dunn East Centre,SNP,2
      Razaq Maryhill/Kelvin,Labour,1
      Redmond Calton,Labour,1
      McLaughlin Shettleston,SNP,2
      Andrew Hillhead,SNP,2
      [b]Muir Baillieston,Labour,2[/b]
      Rooney Garscadden/Scot,Labour,1
      Scanlon Southside Centr,Labour,1
      Davidson North East,Labour,1
      Hanif Southside Centr,SNP,2
      Gibson Greater Pollok,SNP,2
      Stewart Springburn,Labour,1
      McKenzie Linn,Labour,1
      Todd Springburn,Labour,1
      Hughes Drumchapel/Anni,Labour,1
      Colleran Partick West,Labour,1
      Watson Craigton,Labour,1
      Winter Maryhill/Kelvin,Labour,1
      Alderslowe Southside Centr,Green Party,2

      http://local.stv.tv/glasgow/news/local-democracy/27884-breakdown-of-councillor-budget-votes/

    • The vote breakdown 1 voted with Labour 2 voted with opposition Listed by name, ward, party then how voted

      Docherty Linn,Labour,1
      Ritchie Linn,SNP,2
      [u]Deans Newlands/Auldbu,Independent,1[/u] left SNP
      McNally Newlands/Auldbu,Labour,1
      Butt Govan,Labour,1
      Cameron Garscadden/Scot,Labour,1
      Carey Drumchapel/Anni,Labour,1
      Chalmers East Centre,Labour,1
      Meikle Pollokshields,Conservative,2
      Hunter Govan,SNP,2
      Simpson Calton,Labour,1
      Clark Linn,Liberal Democrat,2
      [b]Morrison Greater Pollok,Labour,2[/b]
      Curran Newlands/Auldbu,Labour,1
      McFadden Garscadden/Scot,Labour,1
      [b]Black Craigton,Labour,2[/b]
      Docherty East Centre,Labour,1
      Kerr Craigton,Labour,1
      [b]Dornan Govan,Labour,2[/b]
      Malik Hillhead,Labour,1
      Findlay Drumchapel/Anni,Labour,1
      Flanagan Govan,Labour,1
      Malik Pollokshields,SNP,2
      Gibson Craigton,SNP,2
      Glass Greater Pollok,Labour,1
      Graham Langside,Labour,1
      [i]Rabbani Pollokshields,SNP,2[/i]new from Labour
      Coleshill Langside,Liberal Democrat,2
      Hurcombe Canal,Labour,1
      Dornan Langside,SNP,2
      Leonard North East,Labour,1
      Thoms North East,SNP,2
      McAllister Canal,SNP,2
      Thewliss Calton,SNP,2
      Wardrop Hillhead,Green Party,2
      Baker Anderston/City,Green Party,2
      McDougall East Centre,Labour,1
      Mackechnie Canal,Labour,1
      Coleman Baillieston,Labour,1
      Ryan Shettleston,Labour,1
      Clay Partick West,Green Party,2
      McLeod Shettleston,Labour,1
      McLean Partick West,SNP,2
      Braat Anderston/City,Labour,1
      McMaster North East,Labour,1
      MacKay Anderston/City,SNP,2
      Elder Hillhead,Liberal Democrat,2
      Mason Partick West,Liberal Democrat,2
      Turner Baillieston,SNP,2
      Matheson Anderston/City,Labour,1
      [b]Miller Southside Centr,Labour,2[/b]
      Hendry Garscadden/Scot,SNP,2
      McTaggart Drumchapel/Anni,Labour,1
      McDonald Baillieston,SNP,2
      Dingwall Maryhill/Kelvin,Liberal Democrat,2
      [b]O’Rourke Greater Pollok,Labour,2[/b]
      Wild Canal,Green Party,2
      Greene Springburn,SNP,2
      Paris Maryhill/Kelvin,Liberal Democrat,2
      Dunn East Centre,SNP,2
      Razaq Maryhill/Kelvin,Labour,1
      Redmond Calton,Labour,1
      McLaughlin Shettleston,SNP,2
      Andrew Hillhead,SNP,2
      [b]Muir Baillieston,Labour,2[/b]
      Rooney Garscadden/Scot,Labour,1
      Scanlon Southside Centr,Labour,1
      Davidson North East,Labour,1
      Hanif Southside Centr,SNP,2
      Gibson Greater Pollok,SNP,2
      Stewart Springburn,Labour,1
      McKenzie Linn,Labour,1
      Todd Springburn,Labour,1
      Hughes Drumchapel/Anni,Labour,1
      Colleran Partick West,Labour,1
      Watson Craigton,Labour,1
      Winter Maryhill/Kelvin,Labour,1
      Alderslowe Southside Centr,Green Party,2

      http://local.stv.tv/glasgow/news/local-democracy/27884-breakdown-of-councillor-budget-votes/

    • I dont know abour councillor Millar, but an Independent councillor voted with Labour to help them out of their predicament.

  34. So did she vote for Labour or not ?

    The vote was lost 40/38 – her vote could have made significant difference to the outcome.

    If she and possibly some other renegade Labour Councillors had stuck to their guns of leaving the Labour party and not voting for them, then the threat against her son may have proven to be irrelevant as Labour would be currently packing their bags as a council and vacating the premises.

    Sorry to take a tough angle on this, but did she or did she not vote Labour ?

  35. Yes good old Kay with an E hasn’t let the labour party down, yet again! She frequently enjoys airtime talking of children’s issues in whatever form the day’s conversation takes – but given such a scandalous issue, as this item is, – she’s a safe million miles away on the shifting dunes of Aberdeen getting the daily dig into AS.

    Utter hypocrisy!

  36. Yes good old Kay with an E hasn’t let the labour party down, yet again! She frequently enjoys airtime talking of children’s issues in whatever form the day’s conversation takes – but given such a scandalous issue, as this item is, – she’s a safe million miles away on the shifting dunes of Aberdeen getting the daily dig into AS.

    Utter hypocrisy!

  37. My Paranoia is getting worse.

    Yesterday I decided to watch the STV news on the +1 Channel…..i live in glasgow…….and got the edinburgh news……with no mention of Glasgow council.

    Tried to watch FMQ on Virgin media catch up on demand……wouldn’t play with a message saying this service is in high demand in your area please try again later.

    Tried to watch newsnight scotland live on the bbc website…..also wouldn’t work with a try again later message!

    Arrrghhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!
    Its as if they don’t want you finding out anything about scottish politics or sumfink??

  38. My Paranoia is getting worse.

    Yesterday I decided to watch the STV news on the +1 Channel…..i live in glasgow…….and got the edinburgh news……with no mention of Glasgow council.

    Tried to watch FMQ on Virgin media catch up on demand……wouldn’t play with a message saying this service is in high demand in your area please try again later.

    Tried to watch newsnight scotland live on the bbc website…..also wouldn’t work with a try again later message!

    Arrrghhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!
    Its as if they don’t want you finding out anything about scottish politics or sumfink??

  39. Labour councillor Curran’s excuse for the clear out of councillors from GCC, apparently orchestrated from London, was that they had to have the best councillors to serve the people of Glasgow. His argument falls down big time if the standard of councillor they have is like the one who used bullying and intimidation. Also this is another case of the malinfluence of London which insists in poking its nose into Scottish affairs time and time again.

  40. Labour councillor Curran’s excuse for the clear out of councillors from GCC, apparently orchestrated from London, was that they had to have the best councillors to serve the people of Glasgow. His argument falls down big time if the standard of councillor they have is like the one who used bullying and intimidation. Also this is another case of the malinfluence of London which insists in poking its nose into Scottish affairs time and time again.

  41. I heard the Labour leader on the radio and he sounded absolutely manic, like someone on the edge and about to be pushed over. What on earth is going on inside the Glasgow branch?

    • It’s panic, combined with fear. They know there’s a distinct possibility of electoral annihilation, and so instead of reinventing themselves they go on the attack with initimidation and bullying. Old habits die hard.

    • It’s panic, combined with fear. They know there’s a distinct possibility of electoral annihilation, and so instead of reinventing themselves they go on the attack with initimidation and bullying. Old habits die hard.

  42. I heard the Labour leader on the radio and he sounded absolutely manic, like someone on the edge and about to be pushed over. What on earth is going on inside the Glasgow branch?

  43. Should we really feel sorry for these councillors? They are rebelling because the hand(london) that fed them now is not. It seems the status quo was okay whilst all was rosey, now it’s not. Or am I missing something here?

  44. Should we really feel sorry for these councillors? They are rebelling because the hand(london) that fed them now is not. It seems the status quo was okay whilst all was rosey, now it’s not. Or am I missing something here?

    • Do you erckon he will investigate himself?
      It was a councillor on the City Building board, it could even be Stephen Curran, himself that threatened the lady

    • Do you erckon he will investigate himself?
      It was a councillor on the City Building board, it could even be Stephen Curran, himself that threatened the lady

    • According to City Building’s website
      the following councillors are board members of City Building
      Cllr Stephen Curran Labour
      Cllr Gilbert Davidson Labour
      Cllr Craig Mackay SNP
      Cllr Mohammed Razaq Labour
      So that kind of cuts it down to 3 suspects
      The question is which one of the three has previous form?
      Perhaps all three
      So at the moment all three labour councillors names are in the frame for intimidating and threatening Cllr Anne Marie Millar

    • According to City Building’s website
      the following councillors are board members of City Building
      Cllr Stephen Curran Labour
      Cllr Gilbert Davidson Labour
      Cllr Craig Mackay SNP
      Cllr Mohammed Razaq Labour
      So that kind of cuts it down to 3 suspects
      The question is which one of the three has previous form?
      Perhaps all three
      So at the moment all three labour councillors names are in the frame for intimidating and threatening Cllr Anne Marie Millar

  45. The majority of 2 votes for Labour’s budget also included 1 Independent. Close or what?

    I am quite enjoying watching that sack of rats squirm. Labour are finished as a party.

  46. The majority of 2 votes for Labour’s budget also included 1 Independent. Close or what?

    I am quite enjoying watching that sack of rats squirm. Labour are finished as a party.

    • Dave

      Your link’s not working for me but as above comments the three Labour councillors on the board of directors at City Building are:

      Stephen Curran – Chair Board of Directors
      Gilbert Davidson
      Mohammed Razaq

      Whodunnit???????

      • [quote name=”Nation Libre”]Dave

        Your link’s not working for me but as above comments the three Labour councillors on the board of directors at City Building are:

        Stephen Curran – Chair Board of Directors
        Gilbert Davidson
        Mohammed Razaq

        Whodunnit???????[/quote]

        Weel! Fir siccar it wisna the Butler.

      • [quote name=”Nation Libre”]Dave

        Your link’s not working for me but as above comments the three Labour councillors on the board of directors at City Building are:

        Stephen Curran – Chair Board of Directors
        Gilbert Davidson
        Mohammed Razaq

        Whodunnit???????[/quote]

        Weel! Fir siccar it wisna the Butler.

    • Dave

      Your link’s not working for me but as above comments the three Labour councillors on the board of directors at City Building are:

      Stephen Curran – Chair Board of Directors
      Gilbert Davidson
      Mohammed Razaq

      Whodunnit???????

    • Convenor of Strathclyde Polis Authority no less, plus a host of other appointments.
      A rellie of Sterrheid by any chance?

    • Convenor of Strathclyde Polis Authority no less, plus a host of other appointments.
      A rellie of Sterrheid by any chance?

    • Not up to me to tell the NNS team their job – but I would have thought the above statement by [b]daveniz[/b] (a direct personal accusation, without evidence checked by NNS) should be deleted toute de suite.

    • Not up to me to tell the NNS team their job – but I would have thought the above statement by [b]daveniz[/b] (a direct personal accusation, without evidence checked by NNS) should be deleted toute de suite.

  47. If these allegations are true,then this glasgow labour council and this councillor are realy beneath contempt.They not only destroyed the name of a once great scottish party,they have sullied the good name of the scots and scotland, what must outsiders looking at this think of us??.

    • [quote name=”the wallace”]If these allegations are true,then this glasgow labour council and this councillor are realy beneath contempt.They not only destroyed the name of a once great scottish party,they have sullied the good name of the scots and scotland, what must outsiders looking at this think of us??.[/quote]
      I think the word is Mafia.

    • [quote name=”the wallace”]If these allegations are true,then this glasgow labour council and this councillor are realy beneath contempt.They not only destroyed the name of a once great scottish party,they have sullied the good name of the scots and scotland, what must outsiders looking at this think of us??.[/quote]
      I think the word is Mafia.

  48. If these allegations are true,then this glasgow labour council and this councillor are realy beneath contempt.They not only destroyed the name of a once great scottish party,they have sullied the good name of the scots and scotland, what must outsiders looking at this think of us??.

  49. One of the three is an utter sleazeball. The iron fist of corrupt labour is on show for all to see here.

  50. One of the three is an utter sleazeball. The iron fist of corrupt labour is on show for all to see here.

  51. “Two more Labour councillors quit Glasgow city group”

    [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-16980679[/url]

    “Two more councillors have resigned from Glasgow City Council’s ruling Labour group, after a day of turmoil saw the authority’s budget pass by two votes.

    Councillors Andy Muir and Ruth Black both voted against the council’s budget on Thursday.”

    Its turning into a rout already and the elections aren’t until May!

    • I think, if I read the Beeb correctly, there will be another two likely to resign on top of the 7 so far. There are enough of them to form their own party 🙂

    • I think, if I read the Beeb correctly, there will be another two likely to resign on top of the 7 so far. There are enough of them to form their own party 🙂

    • I’ve lost track of all those who have gone.
      So we have

      Ruth Black
      Andy Muir
      Ifran Rabbani
      Stephen Dornan
      Tommy Morrison
      Ann Marie Millar

      any more?

    • I’ve lost track of all those who have gone.
      So we have

      Ruth Black
      Andy Muir
      Ifran Rabbani
      Stephen Dornan
      Tommy Morrison
      Ann Marie Millar

      any more?

    • [quote name=”X_Sticks”]”Two more Labour councillors quit Glasgow city group”

      [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-16980679[/url]

      “Two more councillors have resigned from Glasgow City Council’s ruling Labour group, after a day of turmoil saw the authority’s budget pass by two votes.

      Councillors Andy Muir and Ruth Black both voted against the council’s budget on Thursday.”

      Its turning into a rout already and the elections aren’t until May![/quote]

      The Labour Party rules actually expel any councillor who votes against the party. Seems the guid cooncillors dinna hae freedom to think. If the heid bummer taks orders frae Lunnon then sae dae a;body else. Did Doctor Who not have a race of alians that were like that? They all shared the one brain?

      Was it the, “Cybermen”?
      Was there not a Cyber-King and a Cyber-Controller?

      Now just who would be the Cyber-King and Cyber-Controller of the Glasgow Cyberfolks?

    • [quote name=”X_Sticks”]”Two more Labour councillors quit Glasgow city group”

      [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-16980679[/url]

      “Two more councillors have resigned from Glasgow City Council’s ruling Labour group, after a day of turmoil saw the authority’s budget pass by two votes.

      Councillors Andy Muir and Ruth Black both voted against the council’s budget on Thursday.”

      Its turning into a rout already and the elections aren’t until May![/quote]

      The Labour Party rules actually expel any councillor who votes against the party. Seems the guid cooncillors dinna hae freedom to think. If the heid bummer taks orders frae Lunnon then sae dae a;body else. Did Doctor Who not have a race of alians that were like that? They all shared the one brain?

      Was it the, “Cybermen”?
      Was there not a Cyber-King and a Cyber-Controller?

      Now just who would be the Cyber-King and Cyber-Controller of the Glasgow Cyberfolks?

  52. “Two more Labour councillors quit Glasgow city group”

    [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-16980679[/url]

    “Two more councillors have resigned from Glasgow City Council’s ruling Labour group, after a day of turmoil saw the authority’s budget pass by two votes.

    Councillors Andy Muir and Ruth Black both voted against the council’s budget on Thursday.”

    Its turning into a rout already and the elections aren’t until May!

  53. Regarding the press coverage, or lack of it, I’m going to say something controversial (apologies if I’ve said this before).

    While we await Chris Patten’s slapping of heads, there simply has to be a message inserted into the public domain that says “We (the Scottish people) have long memories. Post referendum, the activities of journalists and broadcasters in Scotland will be reviewed. Any bias detected, any unbalance identified in the run up to the Referendum, will be looked at and the persons involved will be held to answer within the public domain.”

    Perhaps something like this will encourage a little common sense democratic balance to be injected into the debate. If we do not allow ourselves to be seen to be extremely concerned, then the offeding broadcasters will take this as a sign of weakness and compliance on the part of the electorate.

    • Wave Machine.

      Whilst I can agree to some extent with your sentiment and frustration we should not be issuing threats.

      We have to bear in mind that most of these people see this as a fight for their jobs and their wellbeing.

      We have to be open minded and inclusive. Making threats only brings us down to the level of people like Labour’s “give you a doing” Davidson. Is that what you want?

      We want a better Scotland in the future, not one based on hatred, spite and threat, don’t we?

      • I agree and if we are successful many of these people will suddenly be on board with the new old order.

        Leave the door open – the more that step away from unblinking support of the Unionist position the better it will be for the Yes campaign. Of course we must challenge every biased comment and position but do so without personalising it.

        Let’s keep the high moral ground and leave the “doing” threats to the thugs and bullies of the other side.

      • I agree and if we are successful many of these people will suddenly be on board with the new old order.

        Leave the door open – the more that step away from unblinking support of the Unionist position the better it will be for the Yes campaign. Of course we must challenge every biased comment and position but do so without personalising it.

        Let’s keep the high moral ground and leave the “doing” threats to the thugs and bullies of the other side.

    • Wave Machine.

      Whilst I can agree to some extent with your sentiment and frustration we should not be issuing threats.

      We have to bear in mind that most of these people see this as a fight for their jobs and their wellbeing.

      We have to be open minded and inclusive. Making threats only brings us down to the level of people like Labour’s “give you a doing” Davidson. Is that what you want?

      We want a better Scotland in the future, not one based on hatred, spite and threat, don’t we?

    • That is the idea of a press regulator. It was once done extremely well by the Union of Jurnalists, “NUJ”, They fough hard against any owner or editor who had the temerity to attempt to interfere with any members free right to be unbiased. In those days you knew that the articles were written by free thinking people. The Editorial was the only place wher a good paper showed its political bias.

    • That is the idea of a press regulator. It was once done extremely well by the Union of Jurnalists, “NUJ”, They fough hard against any owner or editor who had the temerity to attempt to interfere with any members free right to be unbiased. In those days you knew that the articles were written by free thinking people. The Editorial was the only place wher a good paper showed its political bias.

  54. Regarding the press coverage, or lack of it, I’m going to say something controversial (apologies if I’ve said this before).

    While we await Chris Patten’s slapping of heads, there simply has to be a message inserted into the public domain that says “We (the Scottish people) have long memories. Post referendum, the activities of journalists and broadcasters in Scotland will be reviewed. Any bias detected, any unbalance identified in the run up to the Referendum, will be looked at and the persons involved will be held to answer within the public domain.”

    Perhaps something like this will encourage a little common sense democratic balance to be injected into the debate. If we do not allow ourselves to be seen to be extremely concerned, then the offeding broadcasters will take this as a sign of weakness and compliance on the part of the electorate.

  55. OT and apologies if it’s already been mentioned but Munguin’s Republic have found many examples in Hansard of the use of the word that led to copious amounts of egg on the whiskery chops of our old mate Cochers.

    [url]http://munguinsrepublic.blogspot.com/[/url]

  56. OT and apologies if it’s already been mentioned but Munguin’s Republic have found many examples in Hansard of the use of the word that led to copious amounts of egg on the whiskery chops of our old mate Cochers.

    [url]http://munguinsrepublic.blogspot.com/[/url]

  57. its great to see the ” impartial ” bbc end the article with even the sick labour councillors getting a taxi in for The vote almost like the bbc are trying to imply that labour are committed to the job and then have a wee positive note from the council leader in the end for labour again and then a throw away comment by the SNP that seem to imply the SNP were bitter without even having the decency of giving the whole comment which would show otherwise and also completely exclude this incident that newsnetScotland is highlighting on this thread! so round of applause for the bbc excluding information that is damaging for labour and cutting quotes from the SNP to make it sound like they said something else because after independance it will make it easier for Scotland to kick the bbc into touch and out of Scotland!

    @1314- I said I think never said it was Stephen curran I do have a 1 in 3 chance of being right!

  58. its great to see the ” impartial ” bbc end the article with even the sick labour councillors getting a taxi in for The vote almost like the bbc are trying to imply that labour are committed to the job and then have a wee positive note from the council leader in the end for labour again and then a throw away comment by the SNP that seem to imply the SNP were bitter without even having the decency of giving the whole comment which would show otherwise and also completely exclude this incident that newsnetScotland is highlighting on this thread! so round of applause for the bbc excluding information that is damaging for labour and cutting quotes from the SNP to make it sound like they said something else because after independance it will make it easier for Scotland to kick the bbc into touch and out of Scotland!

    @1314- I said I think never said it was Stephen curran I do have a 1 in 3 chance of being right!

  59. Sorry if im duplicating but not had time yet to read the other posts. All i can say is the treatment of this lady is vile. Sadly i dont think the Labour party can spell the word shameful anymore such has been their fall to the gutter. I hope we really are seeing the beginning of the end of Labour rule in Glasgow. I pray they remove the stench of poison that is the Labour party from that great city. The people deserve far better.

  60. Sorry if im duplicating but not had time yet to read the other posts. All i can say is the treatment of this lady is vile. Sadly i dont think the Labour party can spell the word shameful anymore such has been their fall to the gutter. I hope we really are seeing the beginning of the end of Labour rule in Glasgow. I pray they remove the stench of poison that is the Labour party from that great city. The people deserve far better.

  61. One of the most depressing aspects of this incident involving Councuillor Millar was the reaction of our occassional visitor to Newsnet and Labour activist Duncan Hothersall on twitter.

    [quote]dhothersall Duncan Hothersall @ @SNPdavid And the smearing commences. To the loser the spoils. For shame, SNP. 18 hours ago[/quote]

    Reacting with revulsion to this woman’s account of alleged intimidation at the council seamlessly became “smearing” and something for the SNP to be ashamed of.

    • Well, I know Duncan from twitter. Being a fellow LGBT rights activist we have a fair bit in common. I thought he was above such tribalistic sniping, but obviously I’m wrong.

      • [quote name=”Andrew Page”]Well, I know Duncan from twitter. Being a fellow LGBT rights activist we have a fair bit in common. I thought he was above such tribalistic sniping, but obviously I’m wrong.[/quote]

        Duncan doesn’t reside on planet reality.

      • [quote name=”Andrew Page”]Well, I know Duncan from twitter. Being a fellow LGBT rights activist we have a fair bit in common. I thought he was above such tribalistic sniping, but obviously I’m wrong.[/quote]

        Duncan doesn’t reside on planet reality.

    • Well, I know Duncan from twitter. Being a fellow LGBT rights activist we have a fair bit in common. I thought he was above such tribalistic sniping, but obviously I’m wrong.

    • Well GK – Hat tip, when you’re hot, you’re hot – three turkey’s bagged and it’s not even Saturday!

  62. One of the most depressing aspects of this incident involving Councuillor Millar was the reaction of our occassional visitor to Newsnet and Labour activist Duncan Hothersall on twitter.

    [quote]dhothersall Duncan Hothersall @ @SNPdavid And the smearing commences. To the loser the spoils. For shame, SNP. 18 hours ago[/quote]

    Reacting with revulsion to this woman’s account of alleged intimidation at the council seamlessly became “smearing” and something for the SNP to be ashamed of.

  63. I think my own cooncillor has been de-selected but so far hasn’t appeared on the list of those who have at last found the courage of their convictions and followed the Yellow Brick Road.

    • When I was out yesterday I was passing a local pub. A couple of local labour supporters that I knew were out to have a smoke. One says, “Hi Bob, braw day fir Winter”. I say, “Belive it or not, the weather bloke says Scotland is the mildest place in Europe today”.. Second smoker says, “Things are afu wrang, wi hae richt daft weather noo”. “Aye”, says I, “Ah blame the SNP masel, efter aa a’body else blames thaim fir a’thin”. I felt them both laughing, (and coughing).

    • When I was out yesterday I was passing a local pub. A couple of local labour supporters that I knew were out to have a smoke. One says, “Hi Bob, braw day fir Winter”. I say, “Belive it or not, the weather bloke says Scotland is the mildest place in Europe today”.. Second smoker says, “Things are afu wrang, wi hae richt daft weather noo”. “Aye”, says I, “Ah blame the SNP masel, efter aa a’body else blames thaim fir a’thin”. I felt them both laughing, (and coughing).

  64. I think my own cooncillor has been de-selected but so far hasn’t appeared on the list of those who have at last found the courage of their convictions and followed the Yellow Brick Road.

  65. Well, this shows us that Glasgow Labour is becoming increasingly desperate, while refusing to abandon the practices and intimidation it has used in the past when it ruled the city with a rod of iron.

    This is a truly shameful episode that shows the worst side of an authoritarian, power-crazed and inflexible Labour Party. As a pluralist the whole episode leaves a very nasty taste in the mouth. A very bad advert for local politics – is it any wonder Labour struggle to find talented people willing to be councillors when they treat them like this?

  66. Well, this shows us that Glasgow Labour is becoming increasingly desperate, while refusing to abandon the practices and intimidation it has used in the past when it ruled the city with a rod of iron.

    This is a truly shameful episode that shows the worst side of an authoritarian, power-crazed and inflexible Labour Party. As a pluralist the whole episode leaves a very nasty taste in the mouth. A very bad advert for local politics – is it any wonder Labour struggle to find talented people willing to be councillors when they treat them like this?

  67. BBC Scotland News 1300.

    Apparently Andy Muir and Ruth Black have resigned from Labour Party Glasgow Council.

      • [quote name=”Alba4Eva”]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-16980679[/quote]

        Interesting – thanks for the link. So Anne-Marie Millar had already been de-selected? WWonder if they gave a reason.

        • Apparently they had to reduce their numbers and 8 were told they had been deselected ahead of the May elections, three others who have been deslected, Jim Todd, Shaukat Butt and John Flanagan had been expected to vote against Labour but were persuaded otherwise.

        • Apparently they had to reduce their numbers and 8 were told they had been deselected ahead of the May elections, three others who have been deslected, Jim Todd, Shaukat Butt and John Flanagan had been expected to vote against Labour but were persuaded otherwise.

      • [quote name=”Alba4Eva”]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-16980679[/quote]

        Interesting – thanks for the link. So Anne-Marie Millar had already been de-selected? WWonder if they gave a reason.

    • [quote name=”Seagetagrip”]BBC Scotland News 1300.

      Apparently Andy Muir and Ruth Black have resigned from Labour Party Glasgow Council.[/quote]

      They jumped before being pushed.

      Labour Party rules are that anyone who votes against the party is expelled from the party. Their going was a given.

    • [quote name=”Seagetagrip”]BBC Scotland News 1300.

      Apparently Andy Muir and Ruth Black have resigned from Labour Party Glasgow Council.[/quote]

      They jumped before being pushed.

      Labour Party rules are that anyone who votes against the party is expelled from the party. Their going was a given.

  68. BBC Scotland News 1300.

    Apparently Andy Muir and Ruth Black have resigned from Labour Party Glasgow Council.

  69. I think Steven Purcell should be brought back to sort this mess out.He’s the only man for the job.And we need Maggie back to sort out the economy.

  70. I think Steven Purcell should be brought back to sort this mess out.He’s the only man for the job.And we need Maggie back to sort out the economy.

  71. Well, there’s no doubt this councillor was still feeling the draught of the big stick she had just dodged swishing past her.

    But corrupt politicians always prefer to quietly offer a carrot where they can: it makes me wonder how many Labour councillors who reluctantly voted yes are silently digesting a wee tasty offer of something advantageous to them or theirs instead.

  72. Well, there’s no doubt this councillor was still feeling the draught of the big stick she had just dodged swishing past her.

    But corrupt politicians always prefer to quietly offer a carrot where they can: it makes me wonder how many Labour councillors who reluctantly voted yes are silently digesting a wee tasty offer of something advantageous to them or theirs instead.

  73. Johann Lamont——-
    This story is shameful,and a betrayal of everything Labour stands(stood?)for.
    You’ll never see my vote again in any national election.

  74. Johann Lamont——-
    This story is shameful,and a betrayal of everything Labour stands(stood?)for.
    You’ll never see my vote again in any national election.

  75. Re X Sticks;

    Re my comments on the media.
    I guess you have a fair point.
    Keeping a door open is one thing; you have to convince people to walk through the door. I’ll have a think about that one. Good points from you.

    • As Jim1320 says

      “Of course we must challenge every biased comment and position but do so without personalising it.”

      At the end of the day most of those who don’t support independence are just ordinary people. There are some lords and [s]labour[/s] unionist people who are the exception, of course.

    • As Jim1320 says

      “Of course we must challenge every biased comment and position but do so without personalising it.”

      At the end of the day most of those who don’t support independence are just ordinary people. There are some lords and [s]labour[/s] unionist people who are the exception, of course.

  76. Re X Sticks;

    Re my comments on the media.
    I guess you have a fair point.
    Keeping a door open is one thing; you have to convince people to walk through the door. I’ll have a think about that one. Good points from you.

  77. X-Sticks;

    I was having a conversation with my better half, who is English, re the SNPs vision. I went off on a tangent, as usual, and started talking about the SNP. I framed them as a progressive socialist party. Social Justice is very much on Mrs WM’s radar.
    I went off on a further tangent and stated that the only way that social justice could be gained for the people of the British Isles is for major constitutional change i.e. Scottish Independence, to happen. You would then see a domino effect in the rUK, with a reform of parliament, redistribution of economic power and a repositioning of rUK within the world etc. I then stated that what was needed was the spirit of the International Brigade of the Spanish Civil War and replacing the fight against fascism with a call for social justice and sensible government.
    As socialism has a strong Internationalism, then Scotland could act as a catalist for change elsewhere in the British Isles.
    My point (at last) is to paint Scoland’s Independence as an international movement (in the sense of the British Isles) to usher in a new way for inhabitants of these islands.
    Perhaps a message such as this would appeal to the ordinary people you mention?

  78. X-Sticks;

    I was having a conversation with my better half, who is English, re the SNPs vision. I went off on a tangent, as usual, and started talking about the SNP. I framed them as a progressive socialist party. Social Justice is very much on Mrs WM’s radar.
    I went off on a further tangent and stated that the only way that social justice could be gained for the people of the British Isles is for major constitutional change i.e. Scottish Independence, to happen. You would then see a domino effect in the rUK, with a reform of parliament, redistribution of economic power and a repositioning of rUK within the world etc. I then stated that what was needed was the spirit of the International Brigade of the Spanish Civil War and replacing the fight against fascism with a call for social justice and sensible government.
    As socialism has a strong Internationalism, then Scotland could act as a catalist for change elsewhere in the British Isles.
    My point (at last) is to paint Scoland’s Independence as an international movement (in the sense of the British Isles) to usher in a new way for inhabitants of these islands.
    Perhaps a message such as this would appeal to the ordinary people you mention?

  79. It shouldn’t escape anyone’s attention that this story has come out because it was an attempt to bully a woman. The offender is no doubt used to his male victims keeping schtum.

    As to the Independent councillor who saved their necks – IIRC, Colin Deans was elected as an SNP councillor in 2007, then left the party in 2009. Shame on him.

    Edit: worth googling Deans. He actually defected from the SNP to Labour before going Independent. The SNP were well rid of him.

  80. It shouldn’t escape anyone’s attention that this story has come out because it was an attempt to bully a woman. The offender is no doubt used to his male victims keeping schtum.

    As to the Independent councillor who saved their necks – IIRC, Colin Deans was elected as an SNP councillor in 2007, then left the party in 2009. Shame on him.

    Edit: worth googling Deans. He actually defected from the SNP to Labour before going Independent. The SNP were well rid of him.

  81. Well, I always say to all politicians, Clean Up Your Act!!!

    The sort of stuff can happen in all parties and in any constituency, no-one is exempt and it does the reputation of Scotland no good when it does happen. I hope the SNP knows its own councillors and has a clear policy on acceptable behaviour. The days of secrecy are disappearing, e-mails and documents in public organisations are public property. What people post and tweet is immediately dispersed and it can never be deleted.

    Just saying.

  82. Well, I always say to all politicians, Clean Up Your Act!!!

    The sort of stuff can happen in all parties and in any constituency, no-one is exempt and it does the reputation of Scotland no good when it does happen. I hope the SNP knows its own councillors and has a clear policy on acceptable behaviour. The days of secrecy are disappearing, e-mails and documents in public organisations are public property. What people post and tweet is immediately dispersed and it can never be deleted.

    Just saying.

  83. Hear,Hear,F, also, when you see who is head of the Police Authority in Strathclyde, is it any wonder, given the time it took, for no charges to be made against Purcell. This astonishing decision needs reviewing.

  84. Hear,Hear,F, also, when you see who is head of the Police Authority in Strathclyde, is it any wonder, given the time it took, for no charges to be made against Purcell. This astonishing decision needs reviewing.

    • Yes, will split the Labour vote and water it down a bit. This will really help in secureing the SNP prominence within the Chamber.

      • [quote name=”Mako”]Yes, will split the Labour vote and water it down a bit. This will really help in secureing the SNP prominence within the Chamber.[/quote]
        Actually, the way the Single Transferable Vote works, this could be a bad thing. In any ward featuring a “Glasgow Labour” candidate, you could end up seeing a lot of die-hards simply seeing the “Labour” bit and numbering the rebel in their first 3 choices, along with the “Real Labour” candidates. That’s going to reduce the chances of the 2 SNP candidates in those wards securing enough transfer votes.
        In the upcoming election, I think too many candidates could end up being a bad thing. It allowed the Tory to sneak in in Pollokshields, for example (he only just scraped in ahead of the Green candidate, on the last count).
        You also have to look forward – I’d lay a big bet that any such “Glasgow Labour” candidate elected would manage to patch up their differences with Labour post-election quite easily. Particularly if the chance of being in the administration was in the offing…

    • Yes, will split the Labour vote and water it down a bit. This will really help in secureing the SNP prominence within the Chamber.

    • Then we have the opportunity to ask them what the difference between London Labour and Glasgow Labour is,in fact, that should be a question for Lamont.

    • Then we have the opportunity to ask them what the difference between London Labour and Glasgow Labour is,in fact, that should be a question for Lamont.

  85. I heard Glasgow Labour have some fairly dodgy connections, there could be a lot of fear of getting ones house torched or knee caps broken or even ones son getting paid off

  86. I heard Glasgow Labour have some fairly dodgy connections, there could be a lot of fear of getting ones house torched or knee caps broken or even ones son getting paid off

  87. And still ya canna stop it,the strength of yon lass showed us,its there in all the people,i just wish that was true of those that shame the name a my city,not long now before the sickman of europe rises and kicks some ass.
    SOAR ALBA.

  88. And still ya canna stop it,the strength of yon lass showed us,its there in all the people,i just wish that was true of those that shame the name a my city,not long now before the sickman of europe rises and kicks some ass.
    SOAR ALBA.

  89. It is not too hard to clearly see the Westminster mindset, nor understand the propaganda tactics they have been working on since, at least, the very first day of the Treaty of Union. They see themselves as being the Superior Nation and with Westminster being that Superior Nation’s Parliament. So much so, their mindset conflates England & the United Kingdom as one entity. This then becomes Wales, Ireland and Scotland are vassal states of England and they rule over them. Every action of Westminsters outlook confirms this mindset. They fondly imagine there will be a rump United Kingdom remaining when Scotland takes her independence. By their mindset they can tell us we are acting illegally in even holding a referendum, when it will be held, what the question(s) will be, how it will be supervised and what will happen in the event we vote for independence. They even tell us it is not independence but separetion that we seek. They see every asset of the Union as theirs – not ours. Every UK department, The Secret Services, Civil Service, Treasury, State Bank and even the Royal Family are En glish a.k.a. The United Kingdom’s. The propaganda has been so good they believe it themselves and have even convinced some, dyed in the wool, nationalist they are right.

    Well they are not.

    They signed the Treaty as England but that included the English Princedom of Wales and, (by act of the Irish Parliament), the kingdom of Ireland. They signed it as an equal sovereign country with their would be equal sovereign partners, Scotland. There is nothing in that Treaty to indicate one nation, or the other, were to be either superior or inferior to the other.

    That means Westminster is as much Scottish as it is Englash and the UK parliament is not English or Scottish but a joint parliament. Everything, including the Government, Treasury, Royalty, Secret Service, Diplomatic Corps, Bank of England, Armed Forces and even the , “National Anthem”, is as much Scottish as it is English. How do I know this? Because it is written plain in the Treaty of Union.

    Thus every time David Cameron takes any action, or makes any statement that opposes the wishes of the Scottish people, to break away from the UNION, he is breaking the terms of that Union. He is after all THE UNITED KINGDOM PRIME MINISTER Not the Prime Minister of England, and is thus as much ours as he is theirs. Could we, perhaps, indict him for treason? He is acting agains one of two partners of the UNITED KINGDOM after all?

    Now there is a though for you.

      • [quote name=”jafurn”]Could we…go on tell me we could….please.[/quote]

        I’m not a lawyer but common sense says that as the PM of the UK he shouldn’t be taking sides with Scotland against England. Neither should any civil servant be taking sides. I was an industrial Civil Servant and signed the Secrets acts. My oath was to Her Majesty the Queen as would be David Cameron’s.

        • [quote name=”Auld Bob”][quote name=”jafurn”]Could we…go on tell me we could….please.[/quote]

          I’m not a lawyer but common sense says that as the PM of the UK he shouldn’t be taking sides with Scotland against England, or vise versa. Neither should any civil servant be taking sides. I was an industrial Civil Servant and signed the Secrets acts. My oath was to Her Majesty the Queen as would be David Cameron’s.[/quote]

        • [quote name=”Auld Bob”][quote name=”jafurn”]Could we…go on tell me we could….please.[/quote]

          I’m not a lawyer but common sense says that as the PM of the UK he shouldn’t be taking sides with Scotland against England, or vise versa. Neither should any civil servant be taking sides. I was an industrial Civil Servant and signed the Secrets acts. My oath was to Her Majesty the Queen as would be David Cameron’s.[/quote]

      • [quote name=”jafurn”]Could we…go on tell me we could….please.[/quote]

        I’m not a lawyer but common sense says that as the PM of the UK he shouldn’t be taking sides with Scotland against England. Neither should any civil servant be taking sides. I was an industrial Civil Servant and signed the Secrets acts. My oath was to Her Majesty the Queen as would be David Cameron’s.

    • Lots of good points there Auld Bob. The independence referendum has done something that the unionists never wanted which is to put the contents of the Treaty of Union under scrutiny.

      When the actual relationship of the two countries is outlined (as opposed to the one that has been allowed to develop) the absurdity of Dave’s message boy Michael Moore telling Scots what they can and can’t do in terms of our constitutional future becomes clear.

      Their astounding arrogance and ignorance reached it’s nadir when they began to view themselves as “the centre” and the nations of Scotland Wales and Ireland as “the Celtic Fringe”.

  90. It is not too hard to clearly see the Westminster mindset, nor understand the propaganda tactics they have been working on since, at least, the very first day of the Treaty of Union. They see themselves as being the Superior Nation and with Westminster being that Superior Nation’s Parliament. So much so, their mindset conflates England & the United Kingdom as one entity. This then becomes Wales, Ireland and Scotland are vassal states of England and they rule over them. Every action of Westminsters outlook confirms this mindset. They fondly imagine there will be a rump United Kingdom remaining when Scotland takes her independence. By their mindset they can tell us we are acting illegally in even holding a referendum, when it will be held, what the question(s) will be, how it will be supervised and what will happen in the event we vote for independence. They even tell us it is not independence but separetion that we seek. They see every asset of the Union as theirs – not ours. Every UK department, The Secret Services, Civil Service, Treasury, State Bank and even the Royal Family are En glish a.k.a. The United Kingdom’s. The propaganda has been so good they believe it themselves and have even convinced some, dyed in the wool, nationalist they are right.

    Well they are not.

    They signed the Treaty as England but that included the English Princedom of Wales and, (by act of the Irish Parliament), the kingdom of Ireland. They signed it as an equal sovereign country with their would be equal sovereign partners, Scotland. There is nothing in that Treaty to indicate one nation, or the other, were to be either superior or inferior to the other.

    That means Westminster is as much Scottish as it is Englash and the UK parliament is not English or Scottish but a joint parliament. Everything, including the Government, Treasury, Royalty, Secret Service, Diplomatic Corps, Bank of England, Armed Forces and even the , “National Anthem”, is as much Scottish as it is English. How do I know this? Because it is written plain in the Treaty of Union.

    Thus every time David Cameron takes any action, or makes any statement that opposes the wishes of the Scottish people, to break away from the UNION, he is breaking the terms of that Union. He is after all THE UNITED KINGDOM PRIME MINISTER Not the Prime Minister of England, and is thus as much ours as he is theirs. Could we, perhaps, indict him for treason? He is acting agains one of two partners of the UNITED KINGDOM after all?

    Now there is a though for you.

  91. Dogbite -i’ll keep the faith don’t worry.
    On another topic – how do I reply to a post so that it appears under the relevant one.

    • [quote name=”taimoshan”]Dogbite -i’ll keep the faith don’t worry.
      On another topic – how do I reply to a post so that it appears under the relevant one.[/quote]

      click on the “reply with quote” option on the bottom right hand side of the post you want to associate your comments with. Just as I did here:-)

    • [quote name=”taimoshan”]Dogbite -i’ll keep the faith don’t worry.
      On another topic – how do I reply to a post so that it appears under the relevant one.[/quote]

      click on the “reply with quote” option on the bottom right hand side of the post you want to associate your comments with. Just as I did here:-)

    • [quote name=”taimoshan”]Dogbite -i’ll keep the faith don’t worry.
      On another topic – how do I reply to a post so that it appears under the relevant one.[/quote]
      You click one of the three wee blue links below the post|/. Reply:Reply with quote:Quote.

        • Sorry Auld Bob – anglicized your name.
          I’ll never be off this posting now – hang on the boss is calling me to tea – must go although I can be brave when required. Saor Alba!!!

        • Sorry Auld Bob – anglicized your name.
          I’ll never be off this posting now – hang on the boss is calling me to tea – must go although I can be brave when required. Saor Alba!!!

    • [quote name=”taimoshan”]Dogbite -i’ll keep the faith don’t worry.
      On another topic – how do I reply to a post so that it appears under the relevant one.[/quote]
      You click one of the three wee blue links below the post|/. Reply:Reply with quote:Quote.

  92. Dogbite -i’ll keep the faith don’t worry.
    On another topic – how do I reply to a post so that it appears under the relevant one.

  93. I would like to suggest that New Labour’s Scottish Region is to all intents and purposes in terminal decline as yesterday’s busing in of Labour sick and lame to bolster Matheson clearly demonstrates. Even with out considering the desperation that reduced Matheson to an ‘Al Capone’ type ‘capo’ who stopped just short of having his clique applying the baseball bat to the heads of Glasgow Labour dissenters yet in all other activities demonstrated unflinching gangsterism.

    Financially the New Labour Scottish Region is bankrupt and beholden to the big two unions to keep the lights on in John Smith House.

    In terms of policy and a vision for Scotland they were, once again, shown to be devoid of either during FMQ’s on the 9th of February to such an extent that constituency members are decrying the level of London based control over the party in Scotland.

    In terms of talent – the very few sane voices amongst their MSP’s are effectively stifled by Murphy, Alexander and their MP cronies in Scotland who demand party loyalty with menaces.

    Outside of the MSPs there is only the lone voice in the wilderness of daft old Henry Mcleish who gets routinely slapped down every time he states the bleeding obvious of what is wrong with New Labour’s Scottish Region by the self same New Labour London Scots.

    The functioning and purpose of New Labour’s Scottish Region can be described in one word – intimidation.

  94. I would like to suggest that New Labour’s Scottish Region is to all intents and purposes in terminal decline as yesterday’s busing in of Labour sick and lame to bolster Matheson clearly demonstrates. Even with out considering the desperation that reduced Matheson to an ‘Al Capone’ type ‘capo’ who stopped just short of having his clique applying the baseball bat to the heads of Glasgow Labour dissenters yet in all other activities demonstrated unflinching gangsterism.

    Financially the New Labour Scottish Region is bankrupt and beholden to the big two unions to keep the lights on in John Smith House.

    In terms of policy and a vision for Scotland they were, once again, shown to be devoid of either during FMQ’s on the 9th of February to such an extent that constituency members are decrying the level of London based control over the party in Scotland.

    In terms of talent – the very few sane voices amongst their MSP’s are effectively stifled by Murphy, Alexander and their MP cronies in Scotland who demand party loyalty with menaces.

    Outside of the MSPs there is only the lone voice in the wilderness of daft old Henry Mcleish who gets routinely slapped down every time he states the bleeding obvious of what is wrong with New Labour’s Scottish Region by the self same New Labour London Scots.

    The functioning and purpose of New Labour’s Scottish Region can be described in one word – intimidation.

  95. With prayers having being banned in councils by an English court and we now hear that Scottish Councils may be faced with the same, one wonders why there are prayers before council business when councillors behave so badly to their fellow human beings. What goes through the minds of these people? They make prayers look like a fashion accessory.

  96. Scottish Labour are now showing there true colours, as the “Nasty Party”. They will probably get even nastier as their vote & membership declines.

    Got my SNP membership card in the post today. I never thought I would ever join a political party, but when I read stories like this one, I’m glad I have. The Libs,Labs & Tories have had there day and are rapidly becoming a thing of the past.

    Vote YES in 2014

    Saor Alba

  97. The problem GCC has is if Labour ever lost control of the council to the SNP. The books and wheeling and dealing are going to be revealed and people will go to prison. There will be a knock on effect to why things were never investigated properly or highlighted in the media. All the dodgy connections revealed.

      • [quote name=”Louperdowg”]The people of Glasgow can make this happen in May.

        Don’t let us down Glasgow.[/quote]

        I have a sneaky wee feeling it will happen before that. A couple of councillors missing and a vote of no confidence could see the control change in an instant.

        • [quote name=”Auld Bob”][quote name=”Louperdowg”]The people of Glasgow can make this happen in May.

          Don’t let us down Glasgow.[/quote]

          I have a sneaky wee feeling it will happen before that. A couple of councillors missing and a vote of no confidence could see the control change in an instant.[/quote]

          How would this happen Bob ?

          What are the rules governing a vote of no confidence and what needs to happen before it is enacted. ?
          The labour group in Ayr tried to do this to the SNP recently, but failed.
          Is it as simple as someone from the other camp puting a vote forward and enough people voting for it ?

          • GCC is the last major bastion of Labour. They have a lot to loose including illegal activity. I would imagine a lot of individuals will fight tooth and nail to protect “organised” Labour in Glasgow.

  98. Anne Marie Millar seems to be quite distraught with what has been happening in Glasgow. Well what the heck does she think has been happening for the last few decades? Has she been living on the other side of the Moon? Everybody knows how corrupt and bullying Glasgow council bosses are. They have always been like that.

  99. While we can all enjoy Labour’s discomfort it is imperative that the SNP is scrupulous in maintaing it’s democratic credentials.

    Any attempt by HQ to circumvent the democratic rights of approved candidates to be nominated for a selection contest to represent the Party in council wards to prevent incumbents being deselected must be resisted or we are no better than Labour

  100. Stephen Curran has tweeted that Anne Marie Millar has been a friend of his for 9 years and that this matter should be looked into. So that probably eliminates one of the suspects, since turkeys don’t usually vote for Christmas.

  101. Can it get any worse for the Labour Unionists in Glasgow? The SNP just needs to keep its head down get its shoulder to the wheel and PUSH till May3rd when the Labour Unionist House will crash into the strong foundations of the new SNP mansion being constructed. VOTE YES.

    • [quote name=”ButeHouse”]Can it get any worse for the Labour Unionists in Glasgow? [/quote]

      I certainly hope so.

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