Podcast: Where next for the independence movement?

Robin McAlpine

What next for the Scottish independence movement? With support apparently stalled in the polls, indy still runs high in terms of public support — higher, indeed, than current support for the Scottish National Party?

Derek Bateman

The loss of 21 SNP seats, and the apparent surge that favoured the Tories especially in north east Scotland, came as a blow. But is it really that great a setback, when considered against the greater scheme of Scottish politics and where it might be headed?

Robin McAlpine, director of the left think-tank Common Weal, arrived in the Newsnet studio to chew over the current situation with our regular host, Derek Bateman. What does it mean for the pro-independence movement, and where could constitutional politics turn next? Above all, he urges a new form of conversation with those who have been opposed to change. It makes for a fascinating discussion.

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  1. Hi twins, that’s it sorted now. Please refresh page and you should find the file OK. Apologies for inconvenience.

  2. Within the 1st few minutes – there’s the problem: an ‘intellectual’ side and a ‘salt of the earth’ side to Yes? Intellectual according to whom? Salt of the earth according to whom?

  3. All things are relative; relative to the Better Together arguments, highly intellectual! Relative to unionist representatives in George Square 19th Sept 2014, definitely salt of the earth!!!

  4. […] working on exactly these problems as part of version 2.0 of our White Paper Project. If you heard Robin McAlpine on Newsnet Scotland yesterday, you’ll have heard that we’ve been able to receive the help of Richard Murphy who has […]

  5. Like so many commentators, Robin still refers to ‘unionists’ as the opponents of Scottish self-determination. Yet we know from the brexit/supreme court decision that no union of equal nations exists and that Scotland’s people have no sovereignty in the current political arrangement. Moreover the EU remain vote in Scotland and the vote for a majority of Scotland’s MSP’s and MP’s supporting another indy-ref, both ignored by our ‘administrative Power’, confirmed there is neither a union nor democracy as far as Scotland is concerned. As no union exists in practice, Scots are really going to have to come to the rather obvious conclusion that Scotland is a colony (just as the UN describes former UK union member Ireland as a ‘former colony’), and that our opponents are colonists, not unionists, however unsavoury that may seem. Those campaigning for another indyref also need to be aware of Scotland’s ever changing population and the rather too open voter franchise in this regard. The right solution now is for Scotland’s elected majorities to take the case for Scotland’s independence to the UN ‘Special Committee on the Situation with regard to the Implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples (also known as the Special Committee on decolonization or C-24)’, and also to ensure a more valid voter franchise in any further referendum should one be needed, taking into account the substantial number of predominantly No voting settlers (over 1.5m) coming to Scotland from the ‘administrative Power’ over the 30 years between 1994-2024, this movement projected to continue in the foreseeable future. The No vote is constantly being replenished, but not by Scots and on current trends and with a wide open voter franchise another No vote is highly probable, as the polls suggest.

  6. Thank you so much for this interview and your time! It is really appreciated. I love this structured and stratetic approach of Robin McAlpine. The journey from “don’t know to yes” in 2014 for me was down to a great deal for him to say that it would be a lot of work and by listing all the things which would need to be done to reach the goal. I remember the feeling of relief, – after all the promises and warnings of the Scottish and UK governments which felt like dead ends. .

  7. Alf, you are so right, there needs to be a distinction – not all Unionist’s are Colonist’s, where as ALL Colonist’s are Unionist’s – I am neither, and prefer to simply be a Scot 😉

    Scottish Colonists are rarer than hens teeth, as my Old Grannie used to say, bless her 😉


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